One meter with two billing and invoice document

[Former Member]

Hi all,

One meter with two billing and invoice document, this is my scenario . How i can configure this in system.

Example: For a VIP consumer, some company do this type of billing a 30 or 40 Percentage of the total amount will be paid by the company and the balance amount will be paid by the consumer.

If the total amount = 100/-

Company will pay the 40% of the total amount =40/-

Balance amount will paid by the consumer=60/-

How we can configure this in SAP

Regards

Ratheesh

[Private_Member_7726]

There are too little details to suggest the best approach, but one could do "billing related" installation of the same device in two installations. Once the consumption is available in two "billing constructs", it's a question of billing two customers for part of it.

[Former Member]

I mean in theory; your suggestion seems to work that we create 2 installations. But if u talk of BMD, TMD than that don’t seem feasible as an Installation is a representation of a physical entity where the device is present. And just to create a dummy installation don’t seem to be right. Secondly, I don’t understand the business rational behind sending an Invoice to a Utility company, why can’t be simply give a discount of that percentage to a customer by rate logic? What do you think?

[Private_Member_7726]

The OP asks specifically for two Billing documents (and Invoices), and says nothing about one of the Invoices going to the utility company (or the company performing billing) itself. For all we know, it may even be a third party that has to pay for part of the consumption.

The physical entities in my mind are premise and device location; the installation, although "technical object," to me is something that helps to map the "physical" to "contractual" according to billing needs.

For utility company to "bill itself" would be odd indeed, but I would even not rule out categorically the need to do "internal billing" in some scenarios 🙂

Edit in:

If the need to do "complex billing" is very transitory--like: we do this for VIPs, but if VIP moves out, we need to reestablish "normal" setup--setting up interrelated installations/contracts to a premise can of course make other processes (apart from billing) messy really fast...

[Former Member]

Yes i understand your point that sometimes we even need to bill the utility company, like in case of company use rate categories...where the utility company office is itself using the electricity or water it supplies. Yes if you talk of a scenario where we need to send an Invoice to a third party and the customer needs to pay some amount in that. I think we can have 2 installations on a single premise with the same device and simply write a rate logic to split the consumption and later on two separate invoices can be send to the customers. I agree with you. But i got confused how the question was asked, i mean y will the utility company will waste the resources to send a invoice to itself instead of giving a discount. Yes i understand, i mean if we take the case of 2 installations, multiple other issues have to be taken care of, like what if the VIP moves out ect ect in billing. And many other senarios like... what if the VIP does not pay his bill but the third party pays...how will the dunning steps work.. 😛 but as he is a VIP... 😛 he will definitely not go to dunning...and will pay his bill on time...most probably,,hahaha.. !

[Former Member]

Couple of details I want to know before suggesting u anything :

1. Is it utility company you are talking who bills the consumer would pay 60-40 % whatever the percentage be .

2. why you need two billing & Invoicing documents , there r ways to give this type of benefit to customer. you can achieve this by applying discounts in billing , you can use configure things to get multiple copies of same invoice .

[Former Member]

Same thing clicked in my mind, I mean y will we send an Invoice to a utility company and waste our resources. I mean in case of company use we configure rates to give 0 amount, that time an invoice is generated but that is a different case. And sending an invoice with an amount to a utility company seems not feasible. I don’t understand the business rational behind sending an Invoice to a Utility company, why can’t be simply give a discount of that percentage to a customer by rate logic?

[Former Member]

I don’t understand the business rational behind sending an Invoice to a Utility company, why can’t be simply give a discount of that percentage to a customer by rate logic? What do you think? Hope for a reply from you as this scenario has made me curios that y will someone want that?

[former_member230926]

Hi ,

One of the approach is already mentioned by Janis (meter cross installation)

another approach could be -

For company Just create BP & CA ,

For customer create whole set of TMD and BMD

Maintain customer payment % at installation fact now in the Rate generate posting relevant line for maintained % , and also one non posting relevant line item with total bill amount, using Invoicing event R402 post company contribution to that CA (using non posting line with total bill amount).

Thank you

Manoj