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How does the user knows that, he is suppose to create inter company billing ?

srinu_s1
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Hello all,

Kindly answer my small question

   Usually in inter company billing scenario, we usually create order, delivery and two billing documents right,

So in the system where do we control so that user can under understand, yes he is suppose to create inter company billing after customer invoice is created

thanks in advance

Srinivas.

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former_member184065
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Hi,

First off all ,I didn't understand your query properly .

Side Comment : You can see inter company Billing Field in "VOV8 " and also Order Related Billing and Delivery Related Billing Field .

The IV Document reveals it is concern Inter Company Billing Document.you can execute in VF04 then see there are some fields under screen ,here just check only Inter Company Billing Field and execute and shows all Inter Company Billing Documents .

If you have any doubts or Ideas Please let me know.

Thanks,

Naren

srinu_s1
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Hi,

Here all the required configuration part is done, its working fine, but here my doubt is how does the user knows that he is suppose to create inter company billing after customer invoice is created

its not configuration issue,

let us assume i created sales order, delivery next customer invoice, next i need to create inter company invoice, let us assume i forgotten to create inter company invoice,

based on some setting system done i think system will propose us to create inter company billing where it is the setting needs to be done, i assume u understood my doubt

thanks,

Srinivas

former_member184555
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The user can check VF04 - Billing Due List to find out the Intercomany invoices that are due for creation.

Regards,

Ravi Sankar

former_member184065
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Hi ,

As far I know ,I should not hear or didn't get that type of message when I ran Inter Company Billing Process .

Side Comment : If you don't mind can you tell one thing , Have you got this Type of  Message and If yes ,where ?

If you have doubts please let me know.

Thanks,

Naren

srinu_s1
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Thanks Narendra/Ravi for your quick replay

  let me first give replay to Narendra,see this is not error message, as i already said there is no problem with configuration issue, its already done working fine,

And moreover this is the interview question which i was asked and even i was having this doubt even before, when was trying to replicate the scenarios in test environments i created upto customer invoice only, not up to inter company invoice,

As both of you said in VF04 may be you are right, we can get it all the billing due list including intercompany company invoce, so that user can create the billing

But still am not sure till what extent this is correct, for the above question, waiting for some more conformations

thanks once again for your quick replay

regards,

Srinu.

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former_member182378
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All,

Please confirm if the delivery appears in the Billing due list (VF04) to create an intercompany bill document (billing type IV) before the creation of an invoice (billing type F2, created for the external customer)?

Side comment: When I get an opportunity to work in IDES, I shall definitely test this question / point too.

http://scn.sap.com/thread/2001649

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former_member182378
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All,

I have done some tests in IDES, it seems that the intercompany billing document can be made before or after the standard invoice (to the end customer) i.e. no restrictions / requirement.

Please give your comments / test results.

former_member184065
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Hi ,

I have done some tests in IDES, it seems that the inter-company billing document can be made before or after the standard invoice (to the end customer) i.e. no restrictions / requirement.

Your thought was wrong may be Mr TW . Actually ,In my Company following is First completed Customer Invoice in VF01 and then completed Inter Company Invoice in VF04 . Every time ,we are doing this way of process. I have read so many documents on this topic before processing/testing in my system ,there also suggested as same first Customer Invoice and then Inter Company Invoice .

The company has given already quotation price to customer based on customer  quantity on particular period  before giving quotation to customer ,the company shall consult MM guys and ask how much quantity available in their Plant or ware house after approach PP guys ,on which date and how much quantity will come our finished product from Plant and take decision and then approach another company  and ask about their prices like all such company entities . So ,finally ,the both companies will come out on one decision and processing . Finally , customer invoice cleared ( get / receive the amount from customer ) and after Inter company Invoice cleared  b/w company to company.

If you dont mind ,just test it as ,do first Inter Company invoice in "VF04 "and then do customer invoice in "VF01 "  .Please share your testes after completed  ( I didn't test this way ever ).

Here ,Please comment on my query to answer ( only my learning purpose why because how other people treats Inter Customer and what is the role of him ),

How you treats internal Customer in your way ?  ( Please answer whoever )

Request : Please share your thoughts on this .

Hi Srini,

Sorry for giving pain from my side to you . Actually ,I have ran so many scenarios on this in my earlier but I didn't get any message from system .Might be ,that interview guy was tested as how you could react this type of queries.One thing ,whenever ,user going to clear customer invoice and Inter Company Invoice ,there you can find out based on Billing Doc ,accounting entries and pricing level.

If you have thoughts or Ideas or Doubts on this Please let me know.

Thanks,

Naren

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Narendra Konnipati wrote:

Hi Srini,

Sorry for giving pain from my side to you . Actually ,I have ran so many scenarios on this in my earlier but I didn't get any message from system .Might be ,that interview guy was tested as how you could react this type of queries.One thing ,whenever ,user going to clear customer invoice and Inter Company Invoice ,there you can find out based on Billing Doc ,accounting entries and pricing level.

If you have thoughts or Ideas or Doubts on this Please let me know.

Thanks,

Naren

Hi Naren,

The OPs question is not regarding getting a message from system. I feel, the discussion is not happening specific to the question, but on the topic itself.

The question as per my understanding is, in an intercompany transaction, (since creation of the intercompany invoice is an additional activity compared to normal OTC process) after creating the customer invoice, there is every chance of forgetting to create the intercompany invoice. So, how does he know that the creation of intercompany invoice is still pending.

My comments:

1. Usually it is not the same people who process order entry, deliveries and invoicing. These activities will be handled by different people/departments.

2. We donot have a separate process for creation of the customer invoice and intercompany invoice. If the OP finds issue in missing the creation of intercompany invoice...the same should apply to creation of customer invoice also. There is every chance of forgetting to create the customer invoice too. Hence, the billing is mostly done based on the Billing due list.

Thanks,

Ravi Sankar

srinu_s1
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Thanks Ravi/Naren for continuous effort in giving the replay,

    As Ravi rightly said, here am not getting any error message,also as Narendra said, may be the interviewer tried to found my confident,

Here i think the question regarding "how does the user knows that he is suppose to create inter company billing" for this i think VF04 might be enough, and marking both of your efforts as helpful answers,

And still my one more doubt may be relating to the above only, can we(from the end user point of view not from configuration point of view) find the difference between standard sales and inter company sales in the system, any setting so that based on that we can differentiate

in my company the following process follows, for your ref:

Qty Contract(VA41)-order(VA01)-del(VL01n)-shipment(VT01N)-cust invoice(F2)-inter comp invoice(IV)

thanks,

Srinu.

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jpfriends079
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Srinu

From configuartion point of view, the item category(like NLC, NLN) used in delivery doc is key to your query.

Regards, JP

former_member184065
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Hi TW,

Please comment on my previous post .

Thanks,

Naren

former_member182378
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Srinivas,

And still my one more doubt may be relating to the above only, can we(from the end user point of view not from configuration point of view) find the difference between standard sales and inter company sales in the system, any setting so that based on that we can differentiate

In standard SAP there is no configuration difference between standard sales and intercompany sales (sales = order, delivery)

i.e.

- Sales document type is same

- Item category is same

- Material could give same for both orders / sales

Unless the business / company decides to have different Sales document types (etc.) for these two processes, and makes special configuration efforts - Differentiation based on configuration shall NOT happen.

Side comment: Read interesting post by Abhinav Sharma below.

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Jyoti,

1. In intercompany sale process do we (& can we) use item categories NLC and NLN?

The above question in other words:

2. With the above mentioned item categories, can we have the document flow:

Sales order > Delivery > Billing document to external customer (F2) > Billing document to internal custome (IV)?

jpfriends079
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TW

I have a simple answer, you need to configure and test intercompany thing on your IDES, which you are best at .

This question for both gentlemans. T W & Srinivas S

In following, intercompany transaction which document is handled/created by ordering plant and supplier plant.

1. Qty Contract(VA41) - 2. order(VA01) - 3. Del(VL01n) - 4. shipment(VT01N) - 5. cust invoice(F2) - 6. inter comp invoice(IV)

Regards, JP

srinu_s1
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Thank you TW for your replay,

I think my question was misunderstood by "Jyothi Prakash" NLC NLN will come in inter company STO or intra company STO, correct me if am wrong,

coming into Abhinav Varma replay,

As per my personal experience with users, it is not at all mandatory that every user will well aware of all the plants which they are operating, while creating the document,if any plant is determined wrongly into the sales order so that they can correct it, it may be depend on the user to user or region also sometimes, may be you are right with some users but not with all users,

Please correct me if am wrong,

thanks,

Srinu.

jpfriends079
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Interesting comments.

Based on your experience, can you enlighten us,

- who raises intercompany billing to whom?

- Further, when intercompany billing come into picture. Whether that is not a result of an intercompany STO?

Also, refer following screenshot from sales document type:

Regards, JP

srinu_s1
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Hello JP,

Thank you for your replay, first of all let me accept that am not much aware of this process of inter company billing or inter comapany STO unlike you(senior) people, and also am not that much seniors unlike you people, hence i asked my doubt which was asked in the interview that is

How do we identify that whether it is intercompany billing process or normal process up to invoice(F2)

As per my knowledge for your question that is "who raises intercompany billing to whom?"

Supplying plant company code bill the ordering company code(internal customer invoice IV or intercompany billing),

please correct if am wrong also thanks for your replay,

thanks once again for all your replies sofar,

thanks

Srinu.

former_member184065
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Hi Sini,

" Here all the required configuration part is done, its working fine " .

How could you configure Inter-company sales ,without knowing what type of item categories using for INT-Sales Process  ? What about above your comment .

If you don't know any thing just ,execute in Net and find out about " INT-Sales " ,there are a lot of Scenarios on this topic, after comment on whoever with valuable/ valid answers ( here don't want Exp).This is good way for whoever.

 

If you have any doubts please let me know.

Thanks,

Naren.

srinu_s1
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Hi Narendra,

Thanks for your inputs

" Here all the required configuration part is done, its working fine " .

The above statement you might have mistaken my view, here am not talking about config part is done me and its working fine, in my current support project which had already been implemented at the time of implementation,long term before, its not done by me, 

coming into your your second statement that i should refer for inter company sales in Net, yes i have done it and got many valuable documents also, which were created by or posted by some seniors like you, and also i have some basic knowledge about the intercompany sales process, may be not that much of knowledge unlike some of your seniors,

Here am not at all talking about while i was doing configuration i got this type of doubt, this was asked in interview, which i was not much of confident, hence i posted here to get seniors advice,

anyway thank you for your valuable inputs, time and also for your quick replay as first person to this thread,

And more over am closing this thread, as i got some valuable inputs from all of you,

thanks once again for all,

regards,

Srinu.

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abhinav_sharma05
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Hi Srinivas,

In an intercompany sales scenario, the delivering plant in a sales order belongs to a different company code than the sales organization of the user.

And i feel a user is well aware of the plants which belongs to his/her company & whn he get a different plant in the scenario he/she will have to create an intercompany invoice.

Thanks,