Cost Element category 12 GL posting Cost Center not accepting

[Former Member]

Hi All Experts,

I am trying to post one invoice from FB70 for GL account which is created with CE 12 ( Sales Deduction ). Now when I am posting with Cost Center or Internal Order ( both have Profit Center ) system is throwing below error :

Account 1100040102 requires an assignment to a CO object

Message no. KI248

Diagnosis

All given account assignment objects (order, project) are defined as statistical.

System Response

Statistical orders or projects are ignored when FI and CO are reconciled. You must enter a cost center, order, project, or cost object to which the costs are posted for CO postings.

Procedure

Enter a cost center, an order, a project, or a cost object that is not statistical. The posting row affected is 001 and the account is 1100040102.

But when I am posting with WBS system is accepting it without any error. Its flowing smoothly. I wonder how this is possible ?

If my 3 of COST OBJECT have Profit Centers and why WBS is acceptable ? We have CO-PA activated !

is this system nature ? or is it configuration ? It would be really great if experts can advice on this !

Regards,

Sharu....

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

If you have created a GL as cost element in CO, you have to assign a real cost object. This is standard procedure.

You can assign a statistical cost object when you have already assigned a real cost object. Why system has accepted when you gave WBS element and posted? Because, the given WBS element was a real cost object hence system allowed you to post.

Statistical cost objects are used for only information carrying purpose hence the real cost object is needed to carry the cost from FI to CO.

Hope this clarifies you.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi NKonnipati,

Thanks for the explanation.

• Does this mean in this case Cost Centre & Internal Order is real object ?
• How it is to be decided that which object would a real object & what would be statistical object ?
• How system decided that WBS is real object ?

** I know in case where you assign two cost objects where system automatically decided what should be real and what should be statistical **  But here in this I have given only one CC / IO still system thrown error.

Experts advice would be appreciated.

Regards,

Sharu...

[suma_mani · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu

Which version you are in ?

Regards

Mani Kumar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi NKonnipati,

I am in ECC 6.0.

Regards,

Sharu....

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

Hello Joshi,

SAP has developed the function in such a way that it should check the master data of that cost object for real or statistical and post. You can find the option Statistical in Internal order master data -> Control tab.

Can you check the master data -> control data tab of the cost center which you tried to post with and provide us the options you checked. Because, Cost center is a real cost object and see if the "Actual primary costs" option is ticked.

Thanks

[suma_mani · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu,

I hope that there is no statistical objects deriving from OKB9 settings & No default statistical cost object assigned in cost element master data.  Please send required screen shots for further testing. FB70 Screen shot where you are getting error, Cost element master data ,Internal order master data control tab.

I have tested different scenarios to re produce the above error ,but i couldn't. I am getting KI 166 true objects message. Any way send screen shot which may help to reproduce.

Regards

Mani Kumar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hey Hi Mani,

Please find attached screen shot for FB70 and CosT Center which I am assigning while transaction posting.

Its not block for revenue posting.

I wondering for logic of Real Cost object & Statistical pertaining to this scenario. ( I know concepts in basic ).

Regards,

Sharu....

[suma_mani · Accepted solution]

Sorry Sharu,

I am unable to re generate the said error's. Please trace the error reason as per mentioned note

Note 370250 - Program trace for the CO interface

Or else wait for further communication by expert's wing.

Regards

Mani

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Mani,

I have costing based CO-PA activated. Hence I am getting error where CC & PC is treated is statistical cost object which are not meant for to carry revenues. I did some R & D...

Now PC is meant to collect revenue postings for 11 or 12 cost elements category  how come these CO Objects become STATISTICAL ? If they are satisfying for what they exist... ( May be this very basic question but I have doubt.... )

How would I know which COST OBJECTS are statistical and which are REAL for such kind of postings... which seems very normal through FB70....

Experts guidance would be appreciable.

Regards,

Sharu.

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

Hello Joshi,

Sorry for my confusion. The cost element category 12 is used for discounts and rebates. In other terms, adjustment postings to billing. This is unlike CE category 11 which carries revenues. But CE category 11 will not allow you to post to a cost center where as 11 allows. Though it allows you to input the Cost center, it treats as statistical only. This is SAP standard.

These 11 and 12 categories are posted to Profit center and COPA segments.

You can post with a Profit center assigning in Profitability segment in FB70.

Hope this clarifies you

[suma_mani · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu,

I tried to re generated the error,where costing based COPA implemented system only. If it is cost element category 12 & credited to cost element account,it never consider as real object.I mean never consider in to cost effective.

Cost elements of this category are used to post sales deductions. Sales deductions (reductions, adjustments, corrections) are adjustment or deduction postings of revenues, such as discounts and rebates. Certain revenues, such as freight charged separately in the invoice, surcharges for small quantities or special orders, are not classified as sales deductions. Such value items are defined as revenue elements.

The account assignment options for cost elements of this category are the same as for cost element category 11 (revenue elements). Values on cost centers are displayed statistically only (as for revenues).

If it is COPA implemented ,it should be statistical but entry must be allow to post.

Regards

Mani Kumar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi NKonnipati,

Thank you very much for your reply.

But I didn't get below part... Can you please explain... is there in typo mistake...

But CE category 11 will not allow you to post to a cost center where as 11 allows. 

Yea.. right 11 & 12 are posted to COPA & Profir Center... But in this case from where PC will be picked up if system is not allowing CC / IO / WBS ? 

When I enter profit center directly I am getting below error :

Now I am really stuck up system is accepting WBS / CC / IO / Sales Order / Profit Centre the best all possible Cost Objects from where PC will be picked... Nothing is acceptable by system. Even this I tried with Category 11 Cost Element GL account, but same behaviour.

I am STUCK UP...

Regards,

Sharu...

[suma_mani · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu,

You may change message control for True objects error,if you want to post revenue deductions to profit centers. KI 166 Message. Make it warning and post.

Regards

Mani Kumar

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

Hello Sharu,

Actually, 11 will not allow but 12 allows was my point. Fat fingers .

Try that PC giving in Profitability segment in FB70 and post.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hey Hi NKonnipati,

Please find below screen shots for the steps I performed as you direct ... Something looks positive...

Sounds I will be able to post the document now...

Is it mandatory to provide PC here... ?  or why COPA is NOT fetching PC from derivation rule here ?

Regards,

Sharu...

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

Now try inputting the PC in PC Field and PC in Profitability segment and try posting to check it allows us to post. Ideally it should, because, if you specify the PC in Profitability segment, system treats it as Cost object.

Check this final one from my side

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear NKonnipati,

Please find below screenshot....

Moment of JOY....

A great help from you... Uuuhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I am able to post the document...

One Question :

Why PC not picked up from COPA derivation rule ?  Why I need to give it manually now ?

Regards,

Sharu...

1000000's points you....

Thanks NKonnipati & Dear Mani... you are great guys....

[narasimhulu_konnipati · Accepted solution]

I think the Profit center is not available for derivation in COPA. Please check.

Probably you can check the SAP note 638097 for your ref.

Thanks

[Former Member]

Hi Experts,

Any guidance...