Excise Invoice Handling - DEPOT to update RG23D

[Former Member]

Dear Experts,

I am new to a business scenario under whcih we receive some bought in items (imported) directly into our DEPOT from where the same are transferred to the manufacturing unit, where the same are used to produce excisable finish goods.

following steps are being currently used -

1.     RG23D entry is being created at the time of making GRN using MIGO.

2.     Material is put in transit using movement 351 against a STO already created by respective manufacturing unit.

3.     option "material document" (created through movement 351 above) is slected in J1IJ to update issue side of RG23D and to select suitable excise           invoice captured during MIGO.

Now if above execution process is OK.kindly help me to tell how to create output excise invoice to be sent with material.

Regards,

[Former Member]

This is standard behaviour of system.

[Former Member]

That wont. You need to key in duties manually.

[Former Member]

Dear Nilesh,

One more thing, when i create MIGO at DEPOT end, system shows 2 options " Create RG23D entry" & rg23D for existing invoice".

when excise invoice captured at sending end is keyed into the excise invoice field, system updates the same in RG23D table but with blank entry date and the same is not extracted during J2I5, but when Tcode J1IG is executed (capture) again in reference to MIGO document, system creates one more entry into RG23D table with entry date but this time vendor is blank, both these excise invoices are available during J1IJ but system doesn't extract J2I5 record if reference of first excise invoice is taken in J1IJ (created directly through MIGO)

Is this the standard behavior of system or there is some gap in my processing.

please suggest.

Regards,

Pawan

[kailas_ugale]

Hi,

As per my knowledge J1IJ output is not available in standard SAP ,we have to develop as per client outgoing excise format for Depot Plant.

Regards

Kaials

[Former Member]

Hi,

Many consultants faced this issue in the past Can you pl search on google I found few links for you.

http://scn.sap.com/message/7149824

http://scn.sap.com/message/8788747

http://scn.sap.com/message/13600335

[Former Member]

Dear NIlesh,

Thanks for your help, but in no post the way is mentioned to default the duties of J1IJ (created in referecne to material document) into MIGO.

Regards,

[Former Member]

Hi,

You need to create material document number for 351 from Depot to Plant. Create Excise invoice from Depot to plant using this material document number by J1IJ. In J1IJ system asks you for material document and then using vendor excise invoice.Once you save J1IJ, system generates excise invoice number. You need to use this invoice number while receipting the material in plant. You can take print of deport excise invoice in depot procided abaper has done necessary coding.

[Former Member]

Dear NIlesh,

By using which tcode we can generate print of excise invoice as j1IP/IV not working in this scenario.

one more issue i see in this as how recepient of material i.e. manufacturing unt will use this excise invoice to update their relevant excise register i.e. RG23A/C in order to use CENVAT

[Former Member]

Hi,

In manufacturing plant when you do MIGO, you need to select capture and post excise invoice and give this invoice number. System will automatically post it in Rg23A/C depending upon your data maintainence in J1ID for manufacturing plant.

[former_member187965]

Hi,

Are you using standard system excise invoice form or ABAP smartform for excise invoice print ?

Most of the firms goes for abap smartform for excise invoice print because it is a client specific document. If it is a smartform then with the help of abaper you can create a 'Z' tcode for printing Depot to plant excise invoice.

Also in the manufacturing plant, when you post goods receipt enter the Depot excise invoice number under the excise invoice tab and you need to enter the excise duties manually, system doesn't fetches the duties from Depot to plant. Based on the J1ID settings maintained for the material system updates the respective register and cenvat will be posted equal to the depot excise invoice duties. Test in your system and let me know the result.

[Former Member]

Dear Shailesh/NIlesh,

At the time of GRN (in reference to STO) and seleting option "capture & post" system does not defaults the duties captured in RG23D excise invocie updated from depot during issues.

after entering the same excise invoice no. system says"Excise invoice does not exist in supplying plant" and duties are not defaulted, in absense of the same user needs to enter manual duties for 50-60 odd line items whcih is not desirable, am i missing something ?

can by some means we dafault the duties in MIGO. pls help

Regards,

[former_member187965]

Hi,

The same system behavior I mentioned in my earlier post. The message 'Excise invoice does not exists in supplying plant' and 'duties are not getting defaulted' is standard system behavior. User need to enter duties manually during GR in plant. The reason behind this system behavior is system considers Depots are intended for supply to customer only and not to manufacturing plant (Depot to plant STO). So, in manufacturing plant during GR system doesn't recognizes the excise invoice created in Depot and throws message 'Excise invoice does not exists in supplying plant'. Also system doesn't defaults excise duties in MIGO.

[former_member187965]

Hi,

If i am understanding correctly, you want to know about the excise invoice from Depot to Plant because you received material in Depot and now you want to send that to plant with excise invoice from depot.

Your process seems OK to me, for creation of the output excise invoice you can follow the below process,

Once you go to J1IJ, go to 'Material document' - RG23D selection,

Now enter the 351 mvt type material document number, mat doc year (2013), excise group (Depot), Series group (Depot), press enter,

Here select the mother invoice number (Invoice number which you referred in goods receipt) and post the invoice. System will generate a invoice number. Take the print of this invoice and send along with the material.

[Former Member]

Dear Shailesh,

Thanks for the reply. i have exactly done the same now issue is only how to print the excise invoice whcih needs to be sent along with material pls.

Regards,

Pawan

[jpfriends079]

Pawan khurana

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Discussion moved.

[Former Member]

For the Outgoing Excise Invoice

1) STO PO - ME21N UB Doc Type

2) Delivery - VL10B

3) Post Goods Issue - VL02N

4) Proforma Bill - VF01

5) Outgoing Excise - J1IIN

6) Goods Receipt - MIGO

7) Updage RG23D registers  - J1IG

This is the complete STO Process from manufacturing to Depot.

Thanks,

Shiva

[Former Member]

Dear Shiva,

thanks for your prompt response.

the process mentioned by you is correct but i in my case as i mentioned i have some purchased material/components (RAW materials) in my DEPOT which i need to send to the manufacturing plant for processing and in a process i need to update register RG23D

Hope the requirement is clear pls.

Regards,

Pawan

[Former Member]

Shailesh has provided the solution goahead with that

Thanks,

Shiva