Cannot use QAC2 after partial UD made?

[orla_mclean2]

I have an inspection lot of 100EA in QI stock in sloc 1010.

Using QA11, I have posted 10EA to blocked stock in 1010.

I want to move the remaining 90EA to sloc 1020.

When I try QAC2, it says I cannot because a usage decision has been made.  Any suggestions?

[orla_mclean2 · Accepted solution]

Why can I not use QAC2? I am not ready to make a UD on the remaining quantity. I want it to stay in QI but move it to another sloc.  Is there any way to do this? If not, what is the logic behind this??

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

UD is not based on stock movement whether you partial goods movement or complete goods movement. For one inspection, only one UD can be done. Once that UD is completed, you can't do stock posting. That's standard SAP function.

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

You can change the storage location directly in the stock posting screen when posting if you need to at any time.  No need to move the lot using QAC2 to a new storage location.

You can also post the stock, (or portions of it), without assigning a UD code to it.

But as Maheswaran indicated, once you have assigned a UD code to the lot, you can't move it using QAC2.  SAP considers the lot as being dealt with by a quality group at that time. It has no idea if you might want to transfer the lot or not.  You can't have two different quality groups making a UD on different portions of a lot.  That would usually not be considered a good quality business practice. So once a UD code is given, only the lab (plant) issuing that UD code should be allowed to change it.

It sounds like in your case you might just want to change the lot to a different storage location.  If so, you just have to change the order the lab is doing the operations.  Have them manually post the portion they need to post without giving a UD.  Than transfer the lot to the new storage location and than apply the UD code you want applied.  Keep in mind you would probably only want to apply codes that DO NOT have an automatic stock posting behind it.  Otherwise the stock will move accordingly.  I'm assuming you are moving the material to a different storage location for further analysis, rework or special disposition and you want it to remain under the control of QA.

FF

[orla_mclean2 · Accepted solution]

Thanks Fire Fighter.

What happens is

1. the product is booked in as QI stock at an offiste sloc. (MIGO 101)

2. The whole inspection lot (100EA) is transferred to an onsite sloc. (QAC2)

3. A portion (10EA) is tested and then that portion only is passed/rejected (QA11) and then issued to production.

4. The remainder (90EA)  is then sent back the offsite storage, still to be under QI. (QAC2...but this step fails!)

You have said "Have them manually post the portion they need to post without giving a UD". How do I do that?

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

In the UD screen they can just go to the stock posting screen and enter the portion, (10EA) to unrestricted. Do not select a UD code. Save. 

Then try the QAC2. I think it might allow you since there is no UD made.  But to be honest I haven't tested this myself.

FF

[orla_mclean2 · Accepted solution]

Hi FF,

I had actually tried this yesterday and you're correct, you can post in QA11 without entering a UD code. This means no status change on the inspection lot so QAC2 will then work. 

Thanks for all your help!

[Former Member]

Hi FF,

If the stock of the inspection lot is in Quality and I wanted to move it to another Sloc keeping the Quality status using QA11?

Is it possible?

Movement type 323 is not supported by QA11.

Thanks,

Julian

[former_member42743]

You can't use QA11. Not really.

You have to use QAC2 first to move the inspection lot "into" the new storage location.  THEN you can use QA11 to apply a UD.  Provided the UD code does not have an automatic stock posting associated with it, the stock will remain in QI stock.

But once you have applied the UD you won't be able to move the inspection lot again using QAC2.  You'll have to post it out to QI.

IF you implement this type of process, make sure it is someone's job to run transaction QVM2 on a regular basis to keep track of the lots that have the UD done but the stock still in QI.  This type of stock needs to have a business process around managing it similar to what you do, (hopefully), with blocked stock or restricted stock.  It should be regularly reviewed and made sure it doesn't sit there forever and forever.

FF

[Former Member]

hi, so here in my case, business receive stocks in quality with a lot. From QA11 they will then post partial qty to the reserve samples. But as the movement 321 is configured, the stock goes to unrestricted use. But what they want to achieve is to post the stock to the reserve sample sloc in the quality stock only.

Now as I understand, 323 mvt cannot be used through QA11, can we use a copy of 323, say 963 to achieve the desired outcome?

condition# they need to do the stock posting thru QA11 only.

thx, JWL

[former_member42743]

Julian,

You really should open a new thread for this as we are moving off topic from the OP.

But why do they want reserve stock to be in QI?  The reserve storage location is just that, a reserves area.  It should not be included as available stock anyway. Most folks set the storage location to have zero value so all materials moving into have no financial impact.

FF

[Former Member]

Hi,

QAC2 is to move stock from Quality Inspection to Quality Inspection between plants or within the plant .Since partial UD is given now you can move the stock to unrestricted or blocked stock and to a different storage location.Quality to quality stock is not possible once you do UD or partial UD.

CSN

[Former Member]

If you made only partial stock posting (without selecting any UD code), then you can able to do that. Else you can't do it in either QAC2 or any QM related goods movement transactions.

You have to do it separately through MM goods movement transaction only.