Followup LSO Course Program not working

[Former Member]

Dear SAP LSO experts,

Our client is using EHP4 HCM LSO and the course programs (EK object) to run their training. Now the course program has been setup to include course blocks and course types which is all working well. To add an employee to the course program we use the ‘Subscribe’ to course program via LSO_PSV1. This creates the relationship EK 614 P

I have a few questions around this process and would really appreciate if you can help answer my questions.

My  questions are

1)  The screen comes up with the language mandatory and must then select the language e.g English – the requirement would be for the language to always default to English. I have looked at T77S0 and the IMG and can not find a way to do this.  Please can anyone let me know how this can be defaulted?

2)  As part of the subscribe to the course the screen comes up with the start date as system date and adds 90 days to provide the end date . Once subscribed this creates the EK 614 P relationship with the start date = system date and the end date 90 days from that date. I know the date can be manually changed each time subscribing a person to the EK. Please can someone explain where the default end date of + 90 days is coming from?

3)    My biggest concern is, whenever the course program has been followed up, the system does NOT change the end date of the relationship between EK 614 P. I.e does NOT delimit the end date. This means although we know the employee has been followed up (because we see the followed up flag associated with the additional data), we can not report on the actual date they were followed up… Please can someone explain how they got around this or were able to report on the date followed up?

4)   When do you ever followup and close the course program itself so employees can no longer subscribe to the course program?

Many thanks in advance

Regards

Oliver

Any ideas/solutions for my Post many thanks Oliver

Anyone have any ideas how to solve this or helpful tips on this    thanks    Oliver

[basadriaans5 · Accepted solution]

Hi Olliver,

• Language problem P1026-LANGU while creating a new EK)
  • there doesn't seem to be a solution for this; SAP needs this field/infotype; on the other hand, it's not much work to register this field.
• 90 days problem
  • SAP Provided since 03.03.13 note 1829347 for this issue. Problem solved!
• No delimitation EK 614 P?
  • You can do this easily in table V_LSOFUPROCESS --> Problem solved!

Kind regards,

Bas

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Bas,

many thanks for your responses and solutions.

Re the Language field - when you say "register this field" - please can you explain what this means and whats involved?

I had a look at table V_LSOFUPROCESS  - could not see any switches to allow delimitation.

the steps for course program in table V_LSOFUPROCESS are all Backend with entries A,B,D,I all activated but there is no option for delimitation for backend

Also the field for delimit in your screenshot above does not appear in my followup screens - are you LSO on EHP4?.

Please can you explain a little further so I can solve the delimitation issue?.

Many thanks

Oliver

[Former Member]

HCM LSO Experts,

would appreciate any further help on this issue or if you have already found a solution for this issue.

Many thanks

Oliver

[Former Member]

Hi LSO experts,

Please can you provide help or guidance with my LSO questions?

Many thanks

Oliver

[basadriaans5]

Hi Oliver,

See attached screenshot for more info about table V_LSOFUPROCESS.
Option G will be visible when you select the appropriate delivery method (EK).

With 'register' I meant when you 'select' or 'check'.

Kind regards,

Bas

[Former Member]

Hi Bas,

thanks for the response and screenshot.

My understanding is we should not use system for follow up as there is no opportunity for the user to followup in the backend for recording attended, passed etc………..and if we use backend there is no option to select the “Delimit” option………this is only available for system.

Hope this makes sense

Regards

Oliver

[basadriaans5]

Hi Oliver,

In my opinion, the learner doesn't need to record attended, passed etc for the EK itself.

Explanation:

1) The learner makes a subscription for the entire EK,

2) He books/attends/follows all the underlying courses (E,ET and eventually EC),

3a) Admin does follow up for the E

3b) Learner does the follow up  for the ET.

4) At the moment that all the required blocks within the EK have been done (followed up)  'dynamically' the button 'confirm participation' for the EK becomes visible for the learner

5) The 'system' then will do step B, C, E and most important step  G (Delimit participation)

Hopes this makes sense.

Regards, Bas

[Former Member]

Hi Bas,

Many thanks for your reply.

You are correct with your responses sequence and how the functionality works.

What the requirement is for the course program to be entirely managed and followed up via the Training Administrator in the back end.

The processing steps have been created are BACKEND and activated

Confirm Participation

Rate Participation

Follow Up Participation (with Proficiency Change)

Follow Up Course

There does not seem to be the option to select the Step G to delimit the participation when using BACKEND

It is only achieved when the step is linked to SYSTEM

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Oliver

[Former Member]

Hi Oliver,

In my experience, if the tables do not contain a certain entry or combination of entries (in your case - Delimit participation done via Back-End), then it's not supported.  Given this is relatively new functionality, perhaps this will change with a future release?

So, if all the previous steps are undertaken (confirm participation, rate participation, follow up participation-with proficiency change and follow up course), then the system automatically does the final "delimit" if you have created this entry in V_LSOFUPROCESS.  Is there a need why a Training Admin would need to do this manually in the back-end?

On a related note, have you enabled any 'confirmation of participation' notifications for completion of a course program?

Best regards,

Connie Lyndon

[torsten_thne]

Dear guys,

we also facing the same situation as Oliver. The training program will be followed up by the admins in the backend. But there is no delimitation process for EK-P link. This is still 31.12.9999 after follow up.

An the delimit column in the old follow up pic from the answer is not there any more.

Any further ideas?

Bests,

Torsten