Standard value key in Work center

[former_member184737]

Hi All,

We have found list of standard value keys in Work center. Our requirement is we want to add 2 more labor activities for work center. We know that in Normal Production(SAP1) only contain 3 activity type if we choose variable production(SAP2) system will be listed max of 6 activity types. My question is, in normal production(SAP1) also we can add more than 3 activity types. Then what is the differnce between if we use Variable production(SAP2) or add 2 more activity types in Normal production(SAP1)?

Our exact requirement is, some times a machine run by normal skilled labor some other times it may be run my skilled labor so during production order or operation confirmation only we wants to give the labor1 or labor2 time based on the situation.

If we know the clarification regarding the standard value key SAP1 and SAP2 , it will be easy to understand and finalise to use

Thanks

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

Hi All,

            I created Work center with the standard value key as "SAP2" variable production, when i choose this work center in routing all those six activity types are listed, even in production order also its reflected but when i try to do confirmation through "CO11N", only 3 standard activity types are listed instead of listing 6 activity types. How can we solve this is there any settings?

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Go to OPK0 select your default confirmation profile and check Activities setup and in default tap it should not be hidden.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

HI Rupesh,

          I checked as per your instruction it wasn't set as hide, but still Activity types are not displayed in CO11N

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Have you assigned correct formula in work center costing view? Activity rate/ time maintain in routing operation? Has same value copied to operation in Order?

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

Yes, I added one more labor activity with the standard SAP labor requirement formula as "SAP007" in work center costing view, but the activity type as an user defined which is copied from standard one. In routing also i assigned the value with same activity type which are assigned in Work center. In production order operation also listed the same. In routing i given value for all the four activity types, but in production order operation information i had given only 3 activity value except labor1 activity type.

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Could you please share the screen shot of work center, routing and Production order?

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

Hi Rupesh,

           I have created a work center with SVK as "SAP2 variable production", in work center costing view i have given 3 standard activity type values (Setup/machine/Labor) and standard value 1 ( we are planned to use only 4 activity values from max of 6 activity values) in routing and production order also it was updated correctly. The problem is, before save the production order i removed the value for standard activity "Labor" and then save the production order . If i try to do confirmation through CO11N, the fourth activity value for standard value1 are not captured automatically, the same if i didn't remove the value of standard activity type "labor" in production, it will up comes automatically ( it means all 4 activity values are listed) in CO11N. I checked confirmation profile value in OPK0 also everything was fine. The problem is capturing the value not displaying more than 3 activity types. Have any idea?

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

work center costing view i have given 3 standard activity type values (Setup/machine/Labor)

In work center you should have all required activities type along with formula after that maintain activity timing in routing. Create new order then it will get copied to production order and same will appear in confirmation screen. Please try the same and come back.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

HI Rupesh,

         Thanks for your immediate reply as i already done the same, in my previous post i didnt mention correctly.While creating work center itself i have given the values for 4 activity types along with formula in Costing view. That's why these values are automatically reflected in routing and the same in production order. My question is in production confirmation screen will display the values based on the values which are i already given in production order.

In our case i removed the value for labor activity type and maintain the value for standard value1(4th activity type). Why this value not captured in production order confirmation screen? can you try with some sample data by using this case? any other suggestion

Thanks

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

HI Rupesh,

         Thanks for your immediate reply as i already done the same, in my previous post i didnt mention correctly.While creating work center itself i have given the values for 4 activity types along with formula in Costing view. That's why these values are automatically reflected in routing and the same in production order. My question is in production confirmation screen will display the values based on the values which are i already given in production order.

In our case i removed the value for labor activity type and maintain the value for standard value1(4th activity type). Why this value not captured in production order confirmation screen? can you try with some sample data by using this case? any other suggestion

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

If you changed the value in order it will get transfer for confirmation. But if you removed it completely then it would not be relevant for confirmation. So as per the standard SAP it will not appear in confirmation. Please note there would be huge variance in actual and planned cost of production order so I will recommend better not to change any such things.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737 · Accepted solution]

HI,

    As per your comments, i have assigned the activity type with formula for 4 activity in Work center costing view and maintain the value for 3 activity types (Machine, setup and standard value1. Not for labor), when i create a production order it was captured from routing i didn't change any value at all, but this time also CO11N displayed values only for Setup and machine not for standard value (4th activity). As per my understanding whatever the values are, CO11N will captured the values which we are maintained in production order whether we removed values or change values. Any other suggestion

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Yes correct it's standard SAP system behavior.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737]

HI All,

              Is any other suggestion that CO11N displayed only with standard Activity type values and not for Standard value1/2/3 even if we given value for standard value?

     * The chosen standard value key in Work center as "SAP2 Variable production"

Thanks

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Dear,

Could you please share the screen shot of work-center and C011N what exactly are you looking for?

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member184737]

Hi Rupesh,

      Thanks your reply again.Our requirement is we need more than 3 standard activities (4), the reason is the same machine will be run by low skill labor and high skill labor.So we are chose SVK as "SAP2 Variable production". In work center costing views i have assigned standard formula "SAP005/006/007" for setup,machine and labor activity respectively. I have to use the standard value1 activity as for skill labor, we have created formula by copying "SAP007" and assigned into standard value1. In routing also we have maintained value for both labor and standard value1 activity(skilled labor) why because we can't change the activity type in production order or in operation confirmation.During production order creation or operation confirmation we have to finalize whether W/C run by low skill labor or high skill labor. If we given the value for labor activity it will be reflected in CO11N, but if we given value alone for standard value1 activity it wont display in CO11N.

As per my observation in production order if we given value for labor and standard value1 activity then it will reflect in CO11N. Our exact requirement is we have to maintain value for only standard value1(4th) activity in production order that time value should be display in CO11N what will the procedure. Why system doesn't take the value of standard vale1 activity from production order if we given the value alone for standard value1 activity?

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Dear,

This is standard SAP system behavior just create a new standard value key  ZSAP1with four activity type Setup, Machine Labor and skilled labor assign the formula in work center.

Then define the activity rate for these four activities in KP26 and maintain the time in routing.

So in production order you will have all four activities and in confirmation too. While confirmation book it against the correct activity.

Hope it will help you.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[Anupam1143]

HI

You can define your own SVK in OP19  and your own list of activities in OP7B and use in Work centers.

Regards

Anupam sharma

[former_member184737]

Hi Sharma,

        Thanks for your reply. We are not much aware about SVK and also we planned to use any of standard value key SAP1 or SAP2. Can you explain based on these 2 values?

Thanks

[Former Member]

Hi SKA,

SVK is where your basis to calculate your production/capacity time, e.g execution, setup, cap requirement and cost. each SVK has a standard formula. Its where you can propose in the system on how your capacity will be calculated.

For SVK SAP1 or SAP2, it depends on your business scenario or how your production operates. SAP1 requires just a standard process of manufacturing which includes SETUP time (if you have machine, this is where you defines the basis for the calculation of the setup time of the machine), MACHINE (how will you calculate your total operation of your machine) and lastly LABOR (your manpower)

On the otherhand, if you manufacturing process requires additional task lists for your operations asiges from the 3 standard process, then you can use the SAP2.

But as business, maybe it would better to create your own SVK copied to the standard one:)

Cheers!