on 07-01-2012 12:08 AM
I am on the configuration stage. I tested my doc types. I have 2 document types. First is the cash sales and the other is charge sales. When I look at the schedule line of the item on the charge sales, I always see 2 delivery dates---please see the image below. This is not happening on the cash sales. Please help me to figure out. Thank you.
07/01/2012 = Requested Delivery Date.
This is the date that the customer is requesting to receive the delivery. The system will execute a scheduling to check if this delivery date can be met. Scheduling works as follows:
Requested Delivery Date - Route Transit Time (0VTC) = Goods Issue Date.
Loading Date = Goods Issue Date - Loading Time (OVLZ).
Material Availability Date = Loading Date - Pick / Pack Time (OVLZ).
So the system will check if the material is availabile on the material availability date. It does this be checking transaction CO09 (For a typical sales order process, use checking rule A).
If the system does not find that the material is available on the requiired date, the system will look forwards to see when the material becomes available.
So the system then executes a forwards scheduling:
Material Availability Date + Pick / Pack Time (OVLZ) = Loading Date
Loading Date + Loading Time (OVLZ) = Goods Issue Date
Goods Issue Date + Transit Time (0VTC) = [Actual] Delivery Date
The original schedule line is retain as this is the customer requested date and if the material is to become available earlier than expect, then rescheduling may adjust the confirmed date to get the material to the customer earlier.
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Hello Anwar,
This is the basic difference betweem Cash Sales & Credit (Charge) Sales.
In Cash Sales normally the Customer comes to your Plant, pays for the good & takes the Delivery of the good immediately. Thus in SAP standard in case of Cash Sales, system proposes the current date as Delivery date.
In case of Normal Sales, when you create a Sales Order in system, you normally enter the Requested Delivery Date given by the Customer. Thus here the system tries to check whether it can Delivery the Goods at the Customer's requested Delivery Date, if not, it does some Calculations based on Configuration settings & proposes a future date. As far as settings for this are concerned, people have already explained above in detail.
Thus the bottomline is your system is working perfectly & normally.
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta
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Hi Anwar ,
As i mention before
See when u do the normal sales the availability check is carry out depending on the material availability system will confirm the dates however
In the Cash sales there is no availability check carry out thats why u are not getting the 2 schedule line
it will confirm in the same dates
pls see the screen shot for sales document (or)+item category ( Tan)+schedule line CP /CN
For cash sale sales document (BV)+item category ( BVN)+schedule line BV
cash sale Is a order related billing and there no availability check
Regards
Ramesh
Message was edited by Lakshmipathi
ps:- Pl try to suggest to the query raised. I feel, you were deviating from the original query which will mislead
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Ramesh,
Unfortunately you are incorrect with regards to the schedule line category for Cash sale process in standard SAP.
It is not BV.
There are 2 ways to check this:
1. In VOV5, give item category as BVN and check if BV is one of the item categories
2. Read in SAP help - the first letter in schedule line category represents the process
E.g.
A = Inquiry
B = Quotation
C = Order
D = Returns
I hope this shall clear this slight misconception. Feel free to comment.
In my opinion we have to be very careful while sharing information with regards to correctness, as we are "informing" many "new and young colleagues".
Hi TW,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/dd/55fc67545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
FYI CS schedule line In English BV schedule line Germany language pls refer below screen shot
And TW before commenting anybody pls check ur self and test it
I am very careful while sharing information with regards to correctness, as we are "informing" many "new and young colleagues
Pls u also also careful
Regards
Ramesh
Dear Ramesh,
Thank you for your post!
I have to repeat my message to you i.e. Unfortunately you are incorrect
with regards to the schedule line category for Cash sale process in standard SAP.
It is not BV.
Comments to your previous post:
1. Neither schedule line category CS nor schedule line category BV is used for Cash sale process, in standard SAP.
The screenshot you have shared clearly conveys that the schedule line category (for Cash sale) is CP, for item category = BVN and MRP type = Blank.
2.
CS schedule line In English BV schedule line Germany language
In Schedule line category CS is NOT same as schedule line category BV.
CS is used for 3rd party sale process.
BV is consumption MRP
3. Sales document type BV is actually sales document type CS.
But we are not contesting Sales document type. We are debating: if BV is the schedule line category for Cash Sale process.
Please do the following:
A. In your test system / IDES system, create an order of Sales document type CS, check the schedule line category.
B. Create a discussion here in SDN forum and ask What is the schedule line category in Cash sale process, in standard SAP.
I hope from this discussion we all can learn and grow our knowledge in SAP SD.
Please feel free to give your comments.
Thank you!
Hi TW ,
http://scn.sap.com/thread/863315
In this threads also Mr.Kamesh Mention as CV please cross check
And refer my screen shot too
Regards
Ramesh
Dear Ramesh,
For cash sale sales document (BV)+item category ( BVN)+schedule line BV
In earlier posts you suggested that BV is the schedule line category for Cash Sale process, in standard SAP.
This is incorrect.
Having a schedule line category starting with C e.g. CP or CN or CV etc. is very much possible. It depends upon the business requirement and the configurations in VOV5.
I hope we have cleared the point: "schedule line category is NOT BV, for Cash sale process, in standard SAP"
Dear Ramesh,
What you are saying
try to understand the point BV it just a German Laguage CV in English Language Both are same
Is incorrect.
1. Schedule line category BV is BV in both German and English.
2. Schedule line category CV is CV in both German and English.
3. Schedule line category BV is NOT the same as schedule line category CV
Please check the details of both schedule line category in VOV6.
BV is blank, on the other hand CV has movement type, relevant for delivery etc.
CV could be the schedule line category for CS process, as it is relevant for delivery.
On the other hand BV can NOT be schedule line category for CS process, as in BV relevant for delivery is not ticked (i.e. BLANK).
As its showing 2 dates in delivery the reason is the 1st date is coming from
Propose delivery date filed in Requested delivery date tab in VOV8. and the 2nd date based on route.
So to avoid 2 dates please un-check Propose delivery date filed in Requested delivery date tab in VOV8.
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Hi Anwar ,
See when u do the normal sales the availability check is carry out depending on the material availability system will confirm the dates however
In the Cash sales there is no availability check carry out thats why u are not getting the 2 schedule line
it will confirm in the same dates
Regards
Ramesh
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Hi Anwar,
I assume the reason is for the Propose delivery date filed in Requested delivery date tab in VOV8.
For this reason the system generated the delivery date as today and the ATP confirmed as per the scheduling.
Please un-tick Propose delivery date filed in Requested delivery date tab in VOV8 and check.
Chers
Say
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The interpretation of the above screenshot is as follows:
1. On 07/02/2012, 80 PAC is confirmed to reach the customer.
2. On 07/01/2012, 0 PAC is confirmed to reach the customer
07/01/2012 is being populated from the sales document type (charge sale), in VOV8, field Lead time in days.
07/02/2012 is being populated with Forward scheduling, Material availability date (coming from MMR)
Thus for charge sale availability check is being carried out and the system is then populating when (date) confirmed material can reach the customer.
If user deactivates availability check, then system shall confirm the delivery date as 07/01/2012. In other words, only one line shall be populated in Tab Schedule lines.
To understand in detail please read the theory of Material Availability.
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