IP30 Issue

[faisal_khan]

Hi,

We have scheduled IP30 to run on monthly basis. The problem is that it is not generating any Maintenance Calls (Work orders)

Details:

Annual Estimate Hours: 4320

Frequency: 4300 Hrs

Call Horizon :100%

Completion Requirement Check: ON

Last IP30 run: 30-Apr-2012

Last Counter (Total Counter Reading) reading on 29-Apr-2012: 5956

IP10 shows Planned Date as : 08-Feb-2013

Note: As The Total Counter Reading has exceeded the Frequency, Maintenance  Call should have been generated?

Please assist if I am missing anything.

Best Regards

Faisal Habib

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

Hi

As the system is showing the planned date as 08/02/2013 it will only release on the day only . on which counter reading you have started the maintenance plan schduling. it will reflect on the planned dates accordingly

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

If uou mean the last time IP30 was run then at that time Counter reading was 5956.

Please elaborate if any other information is required.

Thanks

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

what is the start counter reading you have specified intially, i think you haven't started with Zero , hence system will release the call only after the current reading ( at the time of schduling) + 4300 hours , in IP10 screen press the "schedule overview list" where you can have the detailed view

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

I am not sure thus please find screen shot attached for IK17 giving complete view of M.Point and the "Schedule Overview List" from IP10 fro the same M.Point.

Thanking in advance.

Faisal Habib

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

from the attached screen you can see the next call object is scheduled on 08.02.2013, which is calculate by the following means

last counter reading confirmed = 5024

frequency = 4300

nex planned = 5024+4300= 9324

last counter reading while confirmation: 12.08.2011

annual estimate= 4320 ( per day 11.8 hrs)

nex planned = ( next planned counter reading 9324- current reading 5956 / perday hours 11.8) =approx 284 days which falls on 08.02.2013

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Thanks for the valuable information, this is exactly what is happening . I have 02 queries:

1 .Please tell me in your calculation to get the Date of  08-Feb-2013, did you take into account "last counter reading while confirmation: 12.08.2011" or did you calculated the 284 days from 30-Apr-2011 i.e last IP30 run date.

2. Now in my case it is overdue as reading shows 5296 > 4300. I want to change the machine oil today and restart all over again i.e reset the counter. If I do these changes today, what i need to do in SAP.

Thanks Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

for the nex planned date i have taken the last counter reading 5956 , i have taken the next counter reading from scheduling ie 9324 then calculated the difference which is 3368 hrs and based on the annual estimate ie 11.8 hrs just divided 3368/11.8 you will get approx 284 days which falls on 08.02.2013

see it is not overdue you mentioned as every 4300 hrs system should generate the order , then you have started at 5024, then while scheduling it calculated the next planned on 9324

if you want to restart , just press the new start and enter the start counter reading

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Thanks for replying to both my queries.

Query 1 is solved.

As for query 2, the counter reading of 5024 was way back in 30-Jul-2011. Since then it was reset to 480 Hrs on 30-Aug-2011 and the counter started again (this is my understanding). Since then it has gone upto 5956 at present. In 27 Jan 2012, the counter reading was 4128 and we hoped that IP30 run at end of Jan 2012, would generate a Maintenance call in feb 2012 as the reading was close to 4300 .i.e the frequency, but it did not happen.

Where do you think we made a mistake or ignored something important when we reset to 480 hours.

Thanks

Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

how did you reset the counter reading to 480  hours can you explain

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Thanks for replying to both my queries.

Query 1 is solved.

As for query 2, the counter reading of 5024 was way back in 30-Jul-2011. Since then it was reset to 480 Hrs on 30-Aug-2011 and the counter started again (this is my understanding). Since then it has gone upto 5956 at present. In 27 Jan 2012, the counter reading was 4128 and we hoped that IP30 run at end of Jan 2012, would generate a Maintenance call in feb 2012 as the reading was close to 4300 .i.e the frequency, but it did not happen.

Where do you think we made a mistake or ignored something important when we reset to 480 hours.

Thanks

Faisal

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

As to your query how do we reset counter.

Steps:

1 .tcode IK11

2. Give Measuring Point

3.Enter Date/Time

4.Enter Counter reading as 1 or say 480 hrs (as in our case), but not 0 in any case.

5. Go to Edit/Replace Counter

6. Set the Total Counter Reading Set Externally check box (Active)

7. Save

Thanks

Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

you have done the right thing expect you need to enter the reading in Total counter reading instead of counter reading. if you enter the total counter reading only it will affect the maintenance plan

what you have done is you have just replaced the counter reading , not  the total counter reading

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Good Morning to you as its 8.47am at my place.

Can you please tell me the importance of "Total Counter Reading" over the "Counter Reading"  field in the resetting step.

Also in our case the "Total Counter Reading" field is disabled as it is updated automatically once the "Counter Reading" field is updated.

Do we need to make "Total Counter Reading" field updatable for resetting of counter.

Thanks

Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

very good morning, when you are replacing the counter there are 2 options either you can reset the counter reading and total counter reading assume your total reading is 10000 and you replace the counter and specify the counter reading as 10 , then while futher entreing the result as 12 , then the total counter reading will be 100002 only , whereas the counter reading will be 12, hence your maintenance plan will not get offset to the total counter reading

as i said before resetting the counter is of 2 , 1 is counter another total counter readin

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

I tried to make a test scenario and tried according to your last message but in vain.

Can you please elaborate steps wise exactly how to go about it.

Thanks

Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

i have created a plan for preventive maintenance for every 200 km, my presesnt reading is 109232 and hence my next planned due is 109432

now i replacing the counter ie  only counter reading

as you can see total counter reading is still the same

but when i change the total counter reading it will automatically change in maintenance plan

.as you can see the scheduling does not change

you need to restart with new counter reading, then only it will take effect. i forgot to mention the same earlier

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

The images have been very helpful.

1. I wonder in your case, when is the next planned value as you mentioned earlier that

next planned = ( next planned counter reading - current reading / (Annual Estimate /365))

(I see in your last screen shot that your Next Planned value is 109431 and Total Counter Reading is 1000 and you set the frequency as 200Km. Annual Estimate ??)

2. Also i tried to replicate your scenario but got stuck on the last screen where you said that I need to restart with new counter reading. Does it mean selecting the "Next Planned Counter Reading " line and clicking on "Restart" button and entering the new value in Start of Cycle field of 1000 as in your case and then clicking Save.

3.  Can you show me the IK17 screen shot for your Measuring Point 5 after restart showing the Counter Reading and Total Counter Reading fields.

I am really sorry for bothering you so much but i really need to understand this issue very clearly.

Thanks

Faisal

[former_member187991 · Accepted solution]

hi

if you change the total counter reading you have to again restart the maintenance plan schedule , then only it will have effect kindly check the following screen where I have restarted with 702 as starting counter value

please find the ik17 screen

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Don't get confused I have tested different scenario

regards

thyagarajan

[faisal_khan · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for all your help in the last two days. I will start working on your lines and check the results.

Regards

Faisal