Changes in TR from 4.7 to ECC 6.0

[Former Member]

Hi All,

Our client have just upgraded from 4.7 to ECC 6.0 and when processing securities, according to them they didn't need to go through TBB1 before doing TPM10 back in 4.7. In summary this is their process:

4.7 (OLD) --> FWZZ (Create contract master data) --> TS01 (create transaction) --> TS04 (settle transaction) --> TPM10 (post transaction) --> TPM18 (fix amortization).

When they tried doing the above steps in ECC 6.0, they can not proceed with TPM10 because the system can not find the specific transactions. I've researched about it and I've read in SAP HELP that you would have to do TBB1 first before doing TPM10. Is this a documented/recognized change for the Treasury module when upgrading from 4.7 to ECC 6.0? Is there any SAP note or document that could enumerate normal changes for the Treasury module and could explain the reason for such change? Please assist us on this as I am not so familiar with the Treasury processes. Thank you!

[Former Member]

Hi,

Please check on the business processes which are documented are correct.

TBB1 is the only transaction to post your flows in all the versions. TPM10 is for posting the reversal flows. Those are required only when they reverse any flow. For normal transactional processing, TPM10 is not required.

Regards,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi,

Does this mean that even in 4.7, you would have to do TBB1 first before TPM10 and that there are no changes as far as Treasury processing is concerned between 4.7 and ECC 6.0? Thank you!

[Former Member]

Hi,

Yes you are understanding is correct.

As per the normal business process, we have to use TBB1 only to post the flows both in 4.7 as well as ECC6. Only when the transaction is reversed, we have to post the reverse documents using TPM10.

Regards,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi,

One more question. If I need to reverse the transaction what would be the flow? Reverse --> settlement --> TBB1 --> TPM10?

Or can I go directly to TPM10 from settlement? Thank you!

[Former Member]

You can only run TPM10 Reversal once you reverse contract settlement. TBB1 is not involved in reversal process.

[Former Member]

Hi,

We tried doing TBB1 to post the said transactions but it generated the wrong postings. When we did TPM10 after TBB1, the correct entries were generated. However, if we do TBB1 just so TPM10 can recognize the specific transactions, double posting occurs. Is there a way that we can skip TBB1 and just do TPM10 instead for posting? Please advice. Thank you!

[Former Member]

Hi,

Can you please let us know what are the postings which are generated through TBB1 and TPM10?

TPM10 will generate the reverse document for the postings generated in TBB1. hence if your TPM10 entry is correct, there is something wrong with the configuration. You can generate an entry in TPM10 only by reversing the transaction in FTR_EDIT.

Regards,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi,

Both TPM10 and TBBI would post a debit on a secuity account and credit to deposit in bank. The only difference is the security account being used in TBB1 and TPM10. Thank you!

[Former Member]

Hi,

Can you please let us know the flows in detail. There seems to be some info missing.

Please let us know the details of the transaction created in FTR_CREATE like sec ID and sec account along with units and then what was posted in TBB1, and what was posted in TPM10 after the transaction was reversed.

Just a quick confirmation, both TBB1 and TPM10 are run specific for a transaction only right or is it run generically for a security ID?

Regards,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi All,

The security ID is ATRMF-1 and Security Account is 2000. Postings generated are below:

TBB1:

debit on LTI-Trust Fund for 25M

credit on Deposit in Bank for 25M

TPM10:

debit on LTI-Equity Mutual Fund for 25M

credit on Deposit in Bank for 25M

The correct posting/entries are that of TPM10 since this is an Equity Mutual Fund. Please note that when we do TPM10, we are not trying to post a reversal. Instead, we are trying to post the acquisition/purchase of the security. We've simulated the transaction in 4.7 system and we found out that our client was able to post through TPM10 directly without having to do TBB1. Thus, their process in posting the purchase in 4.7 was TS01 (create) --> settle --> TPM10 (post). Now that they've upgraded to ECC 6.0, they can not follow these steps anymore. Please advice us about this change and how we can post the transaction through TPM10 without having to do TBB1. Thank you!

[Former Member]

Hi,

Correct process flow is:

1. FTR_CREATE (TS01) -> Create securities transaction

2. FTR_EDIT (TS04) -> Settle transaction

3. TBB1 -> Post transaction to FI

In case, you need to reverse the above transaction which is already posting to FI, then follow the following steps:

4. FTR_EDIT (TS07) -> Reverse Settlement for the transaction

5. TPM10 -> Reverse accounting entries posted to FI in step 3.

5. FTR_EDIT (TS07) -> Reverse Contract completely.

Now if you accounting entries are incorrect in step 3 or 5 above, then you would need to look at account determination. You may just need to set your GL accounts right in the account determination.

Update type SE1000 posts purchase transactions. Check the posting specification assigned to it -> debit & credit account symbols within posting specification and -> the GL a/cs assigned to these symbols along with combination of valuation area & AAR.

Thanks and regards,

Abhinav Sethi

[Former Member]

Hi,

I checked the account determination of the security in question through this path: SPRO --> Financial Supply Chain Management > Treasury and Risk Management > Transaction Manager > General Settings > Accounting > Link to Other Accounting Components > Define Account Determination. However, when I checked the assigned GL accounts, it shows the correct GL accounts (ones generated through TPM10). Is there any other path where the account determination for TBB1 is configured?

Also, can you please tell me where to find your advice below?

"Update type SE1000 posts purchase transactions. Check the posting specification assigned to it -> debit & credit account symbols within posting specification and -> the GL a/cs assigned to these symbols along with combination of valuation area & AAR."

Thank you very much!

[Former Member]

Hi,

In the same setting which you specified -- Link to Other accounting components, there would be links to define posting specification, assign update types to posting specification etc. Check for your update type (ensure that it is SE1000 only) what is the posting specification defined and for the specification what are the account symbols for debit and credit. It is only the final step that you have to ensure that the G/L accounts are correctly assigned to these account symbols.

Please note that the standard is for posting through TBB1 only. The setting which you make here is for TBB1 only and not for TPM10. TPM10 is for reversal and unless you reverse the transaction, in standard you will not be able to post in TPM10.

Regards,

Ravi