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SEEBURGER integration using PI: BIS, BIC, AS2 Adapter, FTP ?

Hi All,

we are exploring on EDI project, where sap ecc is integrated with an seeburger edi partner via PI.

the integration involves: EDI ANSI X12 documents like 850, 855, and UN/EDIFACT documents like DESADV

for this while searching, i came across:

1. the wiki content created by Prateek Raj Srivastava, http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/XI/SeeburgerSuiteforSAPPI

2. a presentation by sam raju http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/00f9cdf5-d812-2a10-03b4-aff3bbf792bf?QuickLink=events&overridelayout=true

I was trying to find out, what all we need in PI..

in PI, what type of communication channel can be used,

can we use FTP adapter, that is comes by default in PI.

or is it necessary to buy something (adapter or content) from SEEBURGER.

after searching little more on seeburger front, got to know that there are:

BIS (Business Integration Server)

BIC (Business integration Converter)

AS2 adapter.

is BIC is an adapter, that we can select as adapter type, while creating the communication channel.

the presentation by sam raju, describes "Configuring BIC as Module", if BIS is configured as a module, what is the type of communication channel in ID.

is AS2 adapter is part of BIS or BIC.

for integration using PI, out of BIS, BIC, AS2, what all is minumum required?

what are the roles of BIS, BIC and AS2 in the context of integration using PI.

thanks in advance.

Madhu_1980

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    Dec 19, 2011 at 04:45 PM

    >>in PI, what type of communication channel can be used,

    Any. Using Seeburger Adapter for EDI communication is not mandatory.

    >>can we use FTP adapter, that is comes by default in PI.

    Yes, you can use it to send even EDI files.

    >>or is it necessary to buy something (adapter or content) from SEEBURGER

    To convert EDI-xml file to EDI, you have to use Seeburger BIC module which has to be purchased.

    >>is BIC is an adapter, that we can select as adapter type, while creating the communication channel.

    No, it is an adapter module.

    >> BIS is configured as a module, what is the type of communication channel in ID.

    Don't get confused between BIC and BIS. BIC is a module and BIS is a separate middleware provided by Seeburger just like PI. You can use BIC module in any channel which supports use of adapter module.

    >>is AS2 adapter is part of BIS or BIC.

    AS2 can come with BIS middleware. It is type of adapter while BIC is module.

    >>for integration using PI, out of BIS, BIC, AS2, what all is minumum required?

    For EDI communication, BIC is required (if you don't want to create your own modules). AS2 is required only when some partner demands the use of AS2 protocol for communication.

    >>what are the roles of BIS, BIC and AS2 in the context of integration using PI.

    Already explained. Forget BIS when you already have PI.

    Regards,

    Prateek Raj Srivastava

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    • >>as per my XI experience, if we use the standard FTP/File adapter as it is, the delivered file would be either xml file, or csv file.

      Thats only when you don't use any other module. In your case you should use BIC module.

      >>can the edi partner understand the delivered xml file

      No

      >>or is it required that BIC adapter module

      Yes. Or create your own EDI conversion module.

      >>can we buy AS2 adapter separately

      Yes

      >>if we use AS2 adapter, then is BIC adapter module still required to be used as the adapter module in the AS2 communication channel object.

      Of course. Understand that AS2 or File adapter are just protocols. BIC is responsible for the message format.

      >>do we need to buy both AS2 adapter and BIC module

      If partner require communication with AS2, buy AS2 adapter.

      Weather AS2 or File, if you need EDI file format, you have to use BIC (or any other such module).

      Regards,

      Prateek Raj Srivastava

  • Dec 19, 2011 at 07:49 AM

    PI doesnt provide any standard solution when u r dealing with edi messages...in such cases u have to look for out of the box solutions..Seeburger is one of them (adapter module is also an option).

    the generic flow will be: you will map PI XML message to edi xml message then using Seeburger BIC mapping convert EDI XML mesage to edifact and lastly u have to deploy that seeburger mapping on XI server.... refer this

    Wanna implement seeburger for EDI -find the booster

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    Dec 19, 2011 at 09:16 AM

    Hi,

    > in PI, what type of communication channel can be used,

    If you are using Seeburger then you have to use Seeburger AS2 adapter.

    > can we use FTP adapter, that is comes by default in PI.

    Yes, In file adapter we can send the file via FTP.

    > or is it necessary to buy something (adapter or content) from SEEBURGER.

    If you want SFTP then we can go for Seeburger, if you are using only FTP then not required.

    > is AS2 adapter is part of BIS or BIC.

    No

    > for integration using PI, out of BIS, BIC, AS2, what all is minumum required?

    BIC and AS2 required if you want to dealing with EDI stuff.

    > what are the roles of BIS, BIC and AS2 in the context of integration using PI.

    AS2 is a adapter like our normal file, jdbc, rfc...., In com channel we can select this adapter.

    BIC is used to generate the X2E and E2X mappings, which are used to converts data from/to XML to EDI and EDI to XML.

    We have several versions in EDI, based on the version and signal (850/860..) we can generate the required X2E and E2X mappings by using BIC tool.

    Regards,

    Venkata Ramesh

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