MIC's of finished product should get transferred to Semi-finished product

[Former Member]

Hi all,

I have the following requirement

Based on the Customer requirement, sales order will be created. Two line items will be created in the sales order.

First item: 100kg

Second item: 5 kg (this will be the sample to be sent to the customer for approval)

first item and second item will have different material codes.

Now the process order will be created,released and confirmed. 04 inspection type will be activated for the material.

The MIC's of the finished product ( A) should get transferred to the semi-finished product (A1)

For X customer the MIC's for finished product (A) is a1, a2 and a3 and same should get transferred to semi finished product (A1 )

For Y customer the MIC's for finished product (B) is b1, b2 and b3 and same should get transferred to semi finished product (A1 )

The material code for the finished product will be different, but the semi-finished product (A1) will be same always.

When ever inspection lot gets generated the MIC's of the finished material should get transferred to semi finished product

Kindly provide your valuable inputs to address this scenario

Regards

Hari

[Former Member]

Hi Anand,

Thanks for your response

I am confused with process order s now. Are you creating the process orders for the above materials? Is it a make to order scenario?

Yes

I assume (A) and (B) are the finished materials which you are sending to your customer. A and B are the part of sales order.

Yes

You have activated 04 inspection type for both A and B in material master.

Yes

Now what is the co-relation between A1, A and B. I guess you are consuming A1 for manufacturing A and B.

Yes

How come MICs of A and B to get copied for A1? By what logic? When the lot of A1 will be created?

Yeah this is very tricky and no logic behind this. But the client demands for the same.

As said by you of course the A1 will get consumed once we confirm the process order for A.

Okay let me put this way.

Is there any option to create parent lot and child lot. Parent lot being the Finished product and child lot being the semi-finished product.

Finally what is the co-relation of all above events with first point i.e. 2 items in sales order?

Nothing to do with this, i explained in a flow.

Hope it is clear now.

Regards

Hari

[former_member42743]

I think I understand what you are attempting to do. The bottom line is that you are trying to use one material number to serve as the "sample material" for all your products. Lets call the sample material mrtrl# 9000122.

You have a make to order process so you first create a process order for the product and inspect it according to the customer's requirements. You make the UD.

Now when you make product A, you want those characteristic MIC values to copy to the sample material 9000122 inspection lot which is created from a separate process order using product A as the raw material.

When you make product B, you want those MIC charcteristic values to copy to the same sample material 9000122 to an inspection lot created from a separate process order using product B as the raw material.

I am guessing the intent is to keep the batch number the same between the FERT product batch number and the sample material.

I would like to suggest to you two other alternatives which I'm not sure will work for your design but I think it is worth a try and might save some work.

1) Have you looked at setting up your sample product as a by-product of the first process order? You can confirm the finished qty and the sample qty from the same original process order. This will then create your two 04 inspection lots. You would recrod results on the first primary product. Then enter results recording and I think you'll be able to have that set up to copy over the resutls from the primary product. If you can't with the standard SAP, I beleive you'll find the ability in copy inspection results to add your own custom FM that would do the copy for you that you are looking for.

Of course the inspection plan for the by-product sample will have to have all the characteristics in the plan that could ever be expected from any primary product using this process.

2) The other possibility would be to just have the person making the UD on the primary inspection products inspection lot, to post a sample qty "to other quantity". They would always of course post to the sample material. If the characteristics in the lot match up to general characteristics in the batch class for the sample, the resutls will be transferred to the batch. Report your sample reuslts from the batch record and the specs from the inspection lot in the COA.

FF

[anand_rao3]

Hello Hari,

Kindly excuse me but your requirement is not clear. If you can please clarify my confusion here!

1. first item and second item will have different material codes. Up to this point I understood clearly.

2. I am confused with process order s now. Are you creating the process orders for the above materials? Is it a make to order scenario?

3. I assume (A) and (B) are the finished materials which you are sending to your customer. A and B are the part of sales order.

4. You have activated 04 inspection type for both A and B in material master.

5. Inspection plan of A contains MICs a1, a2 and a3

6. Inspection plan of B contains MICs b1, b2 and b3

7. Now what is the co-relation between A1, A and B. I guess you are consuming A1 for manufacturing A and B.

8. Inspection lots will be generated for A and B after production declaration. (Here A1 gets consumed)

9. How come MICs of A and B to get copied for A1? By what logic? When the lot of A1 will be created?

10. Finally what is the co-relation of all above events with first point i.e. 2 items in sales order?

Regards,

Anand Rao