IDOC question on Message type and Basic Type - Partner Profile

[Former Member]

Hi all,

I am wonder if I can post any IDoc question in this right forum/module. If not please direct me to the right forum/module. I am a newbie in IDOC setup.

My question is about the setup of Partner Profile creation (WE20).

When creating a new partner, for example with partner type LI, I notice there is outbound parameter and inbound parameter.

Questions:

1 u2013 It makes sense to have only one message type record appear in EITHER one of these two tables. I notice that some partner in my system has message type record exist on both the inbound and outbound parameters table, why system allows? What is the business rational?

2 u2013 May I have a list of standard SAPu2019s Message Type object of its usage description, and its allowable Basic Type (ie. IDOC TYPE). Basically a website to describe their (i.e. Message type and its Basic Type) business usage.

Thanks.

tuff

[Former Member]

Hi Tuff,

1 u2013 It makes sense to have only one message type record appear in EITHER one of these two tables. I notice that some partner in my system has message type record exist on both the inbound and outbound parameters table, why system allows? What is the business rational?

Do you mean to say, you saw the same message type in both outbound and inbound partner profile, If so what was the message type.

2 u2013 May I have a list of standard SAPu2019s Message Type object of its usage description, and its allowable Basic Type (ie. IDOC TYPE). Basically a website to describe their (i.e. Message type and its Basic Type) business usage.

Well, i am not aware of any such website, but you can look at Tcode: WE82 which lists all the message types in the system(Standard and custom) and the associated IDOC Type. You can use WE60 to look for documentation on the IDOC Type.

Regards,

Chen

[Former Member]

Hi Chen and others,

Basically,

1 - I give you one example in my system.

There is a partner sing partner type LI. This partner in the WE20, has one record (i.e. with Message Type ORDERS) exist in the Outbound Parameter table. This partner also has 4 records (i.w. with Message Type DESADV, INVOIC, MBGMCR, and ORDRSP) exist in the Inbound Parameter table. So my question is what is the business rational behind this kind of setup. Because I am confuse when come to create a partner profile, whether I need to create a message type in Inbound Parameter table or Outbound Parameter table, or I need both.

2 - Bascially I would like a reference in any website that allow me to choose which message type is best use for my partner profile, so that I don't have to reinvent.

Please help.

Thanks.

Tuff

[Former Member]

Tuff,

Below are my thoughts,

There is a partner sing partner type LI. This partner in the WE20, has one record (i.e. with Message Type ORDERS) exist in the Outbound Parameter table. This partner also has 4 records (i.w. with Message Type DESADV, INVOIC, MBGMCR, and ORDRSP) exist in the Inbound Parameter table. So my question is what is the business rational behind this kind of setup. Because I am confuse when come to create a partner profile, whether I need to create a message type in Inbound Parameter table or Outbound Parameter table, or I need both.

OK, so looking at the above example, you have an orders message type(This is for creating an order) in the outbound, this means that you are sending out an IDOC(purchase order for ex) to this partner, so that this partner can create an SO in his system and fulfill your order.

Now you also, mention that you have other four Message types for the same partner on the inbound, now let us look at the above scenario, you have asked your partner to fulfill the order, i guess you would like to get a confirmation from him/her if the order was created or not in his/her system and how and when is he/she going to fulfill your order requirement. This he/she does by sending an response to your order - ORDRSP.

And when the partner is ready to ship your order to you, he/she sends out a Advance Shipping Notice - ASN via the IDOC of message type DESADV.

Finally and most importantly , he/she will send you the invoice - INVOIC for the order.

In general, you interact with your partner via Business Docs - Order, Delivery, ASN, Invoice etc, so whatever document come from your partner - ORDRSP, INVOIC etc will be on the inbound profile of the partner. Whatever docs that you send ORDERS, ORDCHG etc etc will be on the outbound profile of the partner.

2 - Bascially I would like a reference in any website that allow me to choose which message type is best use for my partner profile, so that I don't have to reinvent.

Well, there is no choice of choosing/best message type for a given requirement - So for sending an Invoice the message type is INVOIC, ORDERS - For order creation, ORDCHG for order change etc. However the IDOC type, is some thing that you can choose, for Ex: ORDERS01 - ORDERS05, these are the IDOC types that are available, so if you are interacting with a partner who are running an old version of SAP and their system has only upto ORDERS02 in their version of SAP then you would use ORDERS02.

Regards,

Chen