Suggestion: Quality Ranking :-)

[detlev_beutner]

Hi there,

since the contribution points has been activated, at least within the forums, the top contributors are not any more checked by their number of postings but on the points one got in the forum. This definitely was an approvement. Guys who posted 1.000 times "Everything OK? I'll go to bed now!" have no more chance to get listed

I have a proposal for the next step: It is still possible to write 1.000 times "Yes.". In some cases, this may result in 10 points Trying often enough, you will be the king of the forums

So why not implementing a quality ranking like "points/posts"?! (With an entry limit of 100 points and/or posts).

To get this clarified: I'm serious about the idea!

Best regards

Detlev

PS: OK, I'm serious, but the only reason (now I'm not serious, to be serious) why I'm proposing this is that I don't see people with a "quality coefficient" greater then 2 (except me)

[Former Member]

Hi Detlev,

don't you see people with a "quality coefficient" greater then 2 (except you) ?!?! Take a loo to my score !

I'm joking, my dear, but (seriously) I think that, however, this contribution point system is better and more effective than many others (SAP community included)...the number of posts had a big rilevance in the conversion (1 post = 1 point...not the best solution), but some criteria had to be chosen (and I'm active on SDN only from the end of August!)...

By the way, your suggestions are very interesting (especially related to the points assigned to the blog writers)..hope in the future someone takes it into account !

Bye,

Roberto

[detlev_beutner]

Hi Roberto,

short time after writing the original posting, I saw your coefficent. Shocking! Now I'm visiting the sun studio for several days to get the white out of my face again

Best regards,

Detlev

[former_member374]

Hi Everyone,

As we said before we run this first round until the SAP TechEds to fine-tune afterwords.

The steps in the right direction in my opinion in the Weblog area are the MyWeblogs and the rating, currently not yet rating on Weblog posts. With that we will be able to give Weblog posts points for how well it was received.

If we can do that, we can lower the base points for the "we meet at the café after the BoF sessions" Weblogs.

If any of you are here in Munich at the TechEd, please swing by my BoF session: 20:45 Business Theater 2 where we will exactly discuss these points.

Points per post is an interesting concept, my feat is only that we make it to complicated for people that are not on SDN on a regular basis.

See you there, Mark.

[detlev_beutner]

Hi Mark,

> If any of you are here in Munich at the TechEd

Has been planned, but has been canceled last friday.

> Points per post is an interesting concept, my feat is

> only that we make it to complicated for people that

> are not on SDN on a regular basis.

I think this could just be an additional information. Nothing one has to care about if one doesn't understand and for sure with a link offered to explain.

Best regards & have a good time in Munich

Detlev

[former_member374]

> > If any of you are here in Munich at the TechEd

>

> Has been planned, but has been canceled last friday.

That is unfortunate, it is great to meet the fellow SDN members here. We are thinking about doing an event in Palo Alto and Walldorf again in the spring.

May be you can join us then, Mark.

[Former Member]

I'm in for one in Walldorf! OK so Mark and I just (about 1 minute ago) spoke about it before he wandered off to find his camera to take more photos!

[eddy_declercq]

Maybe a late reply, but are you talking about a special SDN event wherever?

I'm complety happy with that.

[former_member374]

Hi Eddy,

Good that you ask.

We are working on two events: One in Palo Alto 7th-8th of April and one in Walldorf 19th - 20th of April.

So keep these days open, part of it will be sessions by SDN members, so you can start thinking about what you would like to hear and or present.

There will only be limited space available, but we will make sure that people that contributed to SDN will get to the front of the line.

More to come soon, Mark.

[ssimsekler]

Hi Detlev

Yes, you may be right from one aspect. However, I think it is not something to mind that much. Is it SO important to solve a problem in 3 messages or in just one message? Yes, but not a defining criterion. Because the attitude of the thread owner also defines the number of solving posts.

I tried to formulate the total points using some parameters as

T = ( a1p1 + a2p2 + ... ) - ( b1q1 + b2q2 + ... )

But I couldn't figure out where to put your suggestion (points/posts), some place in the first brackets or second? I am not sure...

And a new parameter: what about ( total points / ( number of days since registration) )?

I am sure to put this within the first brackets

Just some brainstorming...

*--Serdar

[detlev_beutner]

Hi Serdar,

> I think it is not something to mind that much

No, I wouldn't say it's worth a life

But for the serious background: The contribution system in my eyes has led to something like a (positive) competitive spirit, at least as far as the forums are concerned. (I think as the weblogs are concerned it has lead to some really superfluous contributions; one should rethink about 40 points without quality checking.)

Now my idea was to use this positive effects and bring it one step further. What I realize sometimes is that people (sometimes I find myself doing this; most time I try to stop me doing so ) answer very, very fast, without (a) taking the time really to understand the posters problem or (b) just being quit, because the topic is not really in the realm of their knowledge.

Sure, on the other hand, it theoretically could have the side effect to stop people from answering, but as long as the total points are relevant for the top contributors listing (and prizes!), I don't think so.

And it would also make it more easy for people looking for solutions to have an impression if an answer (by a poster with point/posts < 0,2) is to be taken as serious as another answer (by a poster with points/posts > 3).

> Is it SO important to solve a problem

> in 3 messages or in just one message

No, for one topic it may be quite OK to discuss this in 10 messages (remember, if all answers by a poster are valuable, the questioner can award multiple times 2 or 6 points). On the other hand, questions that are stated quite clear often are answerable within one posting.

> total points / ( number of days since registration)

This would be a mixture of two parameters: The quality and the participation. You could reach a high value with good quality and few posts as well as horrible bad quality and posting 10.000 answers a day. So not very informative...

Best regards

Detlev

[ssimsekler]

Hi Detlev

OK. I think the summary is that it will be more appropriate for the competitive spirit to find out a formula taking all possible parameters into account.

As a second thing, I think the available points shouldn't be discrete like 2 or 6 or 10. I do not mean some decimal digits, just one could reward all integer numbers between 1 and 10. (You might think me of a Maths graduate ). However, there should be a total quota per each thread.

Mark Finnern is too busy I believe. We had another suggestion in this forum as proding moderators about ungiven points. But still no answer. Hope someone will give these a hand.

*--Serdar