Relase Inspection lot - With EWB

[former_member284149]

Hi All -

I have a requirement to have one MIC with values ( Upper and Lower range). The tolerance values are customer specific.

I tried working on inspection planning engineering work bench where i assigned one master inspection characteristic with multiple customers with various tolerance ranges.

When i created a process order system created an inspection lot of type 04, however i am unable to perform results recording and i noticed that inspection lot status is "CTRD".

I tried manually assigning inspection plan using QA02 transaction by clicking on "Task List" button, however, unable to assign the inspection plan to inspection lot. I am getting an message " No inspection plan could be found" when i try to manually assign inspection plan.

Inspection plan exists for the material with usage as "5 - goods receipt". And material master is set up with 04 inspection type with "Inspection with task list and Automatic assignment check box" ON.

Please advice if there is a way to perform results recording ? Also please advice me process to set up engineering work bench for inspection planning.

Many thanks

S

[former_member494495 · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Check the key date of inspection lot and inspection plan valid date.

The inspection lot key date should be in the inspection plan valid date.

Regards,

Alagesan M

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Hi Alagesan,

Thanks for the response, i checked valid from date of inspection plan and Key date of inspection lot, however they look good.

I am not sure why i am unable to assign inspecion plan to inspection lot.

Many thanks

S

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Check in SPRO for inspection type 04, whether usage is 5 or not.

Also what inspection lot key date and inspection plan valid date.

Vishal

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Make sure the usage defined in the plan header matches the usage that us being looked for by the inspection lot, (this can be found on the specification tab of the inspection lot in QA02).

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Many thanks for the response, i check in SPRO for 04 inspection type and i see usage 5 is assigned. And inspection plan usage is matching with inspection lot.

Is there any where that i could check ? am i doing any mistake in engineering work bench ?

Many thanks

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

If you run QP02 and enter in just the material number and plant number, (i.e. no group number or counter), does the system pull up the plan with a usage of 5?

I just want to verify that the plan is indeed assigned to the material.

Also, what other statuses are active on the inspection lot?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Yes, i could able to pull inspection plan with material and plant inputs to inspection plan selection screen.

Thanks

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Also, what other statuses are active on the inspection lot?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

I could see below status on inspection lot

PAOR - Insp. completion w/o confirm.

CRTD - Created

PREQ - Plan/specific. required

CHCR Characterist. must be created

SPRQ - Quantity posting required

Than ks

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Do all your lots show PAOR on them?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Yes all lot show PAOR. Does this stop releasing inspection lot ?

Thanks

Edited by: Sesh on Sep 9, 2010 7:00 PM

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

What is the inspection lot quantity?

You don't have a lot size specified in the inspection plan that is incompatible with the lot quantity do you?

Has the plan been successfully used with other inspection lots and/or materials?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

I changed the lot size and currently i see following status to inspection lot:

CRTD Created

PREQ Plan/specific. required

CHCR Characterist. must be created

SPRQ Quantity posting require

ORRQ Order record required

still not able to assign task list to inspection lot.

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Check this thread out, it might shed some light on this. Is this standard for your process?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Not sure how this thread helps me in assigning inspection plan to inspection lot. ???

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

I think that you are seeing something where the inspection lot is still not completed enough to allow the plan assignment. We've gone through the most common reasons for a plan not assigning to an inspection lot. It seems like something else still needs to happen with the inspection lot.

I'm wondering if one of the other statuses is preventing the assignment. I.e is the status ORRQ normally seen in your inspection lots?

Is there a QM order associated with the material? Are you tracking costs?

You never did answer my question as to if the inspection plan has ever been used successfully. Has it been assigned to other lots in the past?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Thanks for the response,

Yes, previously i could able to assign inspection plan assigned to inspection lot with no issues. However, after i configured engineering work bench (CWBQM) i am facing this issue.

The requirement what we have is one MIC can have multiple ranges ( upper and lower limits) for the same material. Each customer will have their own tolerance range.

I created dependant characteristics for a material with different customers. And each customer will have their tolerance range. With this i could able to create inspection lot but not able to release the same.

I am not sure what i am missing ?

Many thanks once again for your support.

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Are you actually using multiple specs or just dependent characteristics?

Dependent specs can be maintained via QP02. No need to use the EWB. But these are usually material dependant and not customer. Are you trying to transfer customer approval information to the batch record?

Did you assign the proper characteristics into the batch record?

I'm thinking that maybe you don't quite have the spec set up quite right in the EWB.

FF

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Also, you updated the material master and marked "multiple specs" in the inspection type setup?

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Many thanks for your response,

I tried to avoid using EWB by assigning dependant characteristics in inspection plan, however the challange what i had is i am unable to assign customer to the dependant characteristic also system will allow only one dependant characteristic for one MIC.

The current requirement is one MIC for a material can have multiple tolerance ranges ( Upper and lower limits) based on customer. So i tried exploring EWB. And i am not trying to transfer customer approved information to batche char.

Please advice if there is anyway to have one MIC multiple tolerance ranges ....

Many thanks

S

Edited by: Sesh on Sep 9, 2010 10:37 PM

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

The problem is that most folks are in a Make-to-stock manufacturing business but on the other hand, want to have customer specifications. That results in a mixed environment and hence problems. It sounds like this is where your at. In this process you don't typically know which batch of material is going to which customers. Multiple specs was SAP's way of trying to deal with this.

But to activate multiple specs you have to first activate them in the QM client level settings. If you did that, you should see the multiple specs indicator in the inspection type set up in the material master. I'm begining to think that you did not do this yet. As a result, you have basically set up the dependent characteristics in the EWB but not truly the multiple specs.

As far as the basic question of multuple customer tolerances, the question is are you really inspecting the material for a specific customer at the time you make it? Do you know for a fact who it is going to? If you do, I would probably set up separate plans and have them select the proper plan in QA02.

If they don't know, then you'll need either the multiple specs or another approach. I have always preferred to keep customer specs in the batch search strategies (BSS) and then we create a FM for getting the COA specs from the BSS instead of the batch or inspection lot. The BSS can than be used in SD to make sure the batch meets the customer requirements.

But if you are not using batch level data then that might not be an option for you.

Multiple specs will work but the master data can be a bit daunting as well. And in the case of COA's, the data has to come from the inspection lot whcih in large companies with multiple plants and warehouses, this can also result in problems.

I wish I had a simple answer for you but there really isn't one good answer for this when you try to incorporate customer requirements into a make to stock business process. The business, volume and complexity have to be evaluated and the lessor of a bunch of evils is selected.

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Thanks for your response,

We are in the make to stock business and trying to meet customer specification which is creating a problem in master data maintenance as you said.

We decided to go with multiple specifications and EWB which i thought would be an option to maintain the multiple specifications. I have activated QM client level settings and could able to see multiple specification in material master and in inspection plan. However, when i create a process order and goods receipt is performed system creates an inspection lot with status "CRTD".

I am unable to release the inspection lot to perform results recording although I maintained inspection plan with usage 5.

And neither able to assign inspection plan manually to inspection lot.

In EWB i created dependant characteristics for one material with different customers and different specifications assigned to each one of them.

With this set up i am not sure why i am unable to release the inspection lot for results recording. I am i missing something ?

Many thanks

S

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

As test, can you remove the multiple specs indicator from the material master inspection type, than create a new order and inspection lot and see if the plan as you have it now is assigned to it?

That might give us a hint as to where the problem lies.

FF

[former_member284149 · Accepted solution]

Hi FF,

Many thanks for your help,

I will explore more on EWB and try to set up system in the way it should. I am currently closing the call rewarding points. - Many thanks!

S