122 vs 161 movement type

[Former Member]

Hi,

Which is the recommended process to follow for return to vendor....the 122 or the 161 movement type ? Does having QM installed play a role in deciding the method to be followed ?

For 122 the process would be create a return delivery via MBRL and do the PGI ? Am I right or are there any other steps ?

For 161 the process would be receieve the original PO, then on the original or new ? PO mark the return item checkbox and do a normal MIGO 101 which will behind the scenes do a 161 ? A I right ?

What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

122 Return delivery to supplier or to production

Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or production order from cancellations (102). In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. This enables you to carry out evaluations for return deliveries.

The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.

161 Return for purchase order

If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted.

Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122.

Return for purchase order(161) is more detrimental to the price because vendor supplied price with tax value is possible to posted exactly.

Hope, it is useful for you.

Regards,

K.Rajendran

[former_member846177]

Hi,

Both are return to vendor

122 = Against Material Document(Exist GRN No.)>>>"Go to (MIGO)A02-R02(122)>>>(MIRO) Create Subsequent Debit Invoice>>>Accounting

Example: If Material rejected quality against a GRN or used Return delivery to vendor (MT = 122)

161 = Create Return-PO(ME21N)& Tick Return item tab>>>(MIGO)A01-R01(161)>>>(MIRO) Create Subsequent Debit Invoice>>>Accounting

Thanks & Regards:

Butterfly" Vasanth

[Former Member]

Hi,

Movt type 122: you can use this in industry when if u want to return the material to vendor 122 MT is used this can be used when Vendor invoice is still pending if As soon as you select drill drop option from MIGO screen the option return to delivery will appear and here system automatically picks up movt type 122 there you have to enter the GR # against which you had already done Goods receipt with 101.

Movt type --> 161 is used for material returned to vendor via Return PO ,First create return PO for Returns Item, select Return Indicator in item over view & save.

For example if procured a material like Container with Qty 100 QA approves the same 100 qty

All the transaction has completed such as GR> Excise ( Part II) > MIRO> Payment run.

When you are issuing material to shop floor and in production line some material say 25 got rejected

As per material sampling can be checked randomly as per QA plan it is not possible to check entire lot and if you wants to send s the rejected material back to vendor with Applicable duties in that case it is useful to create return PO > GR (Here system automatically picks up Movt type 161) Qty reduces> J1IS Reverse Exicse duties (If applicable) > Credit Memo (Reverse the value of Qty returned) This completes cycle both in FI & MM entries will be perfect.

What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price- 122 Draws Price based on the GR & PO against which material has already inwarded and 161 draws price based on the return PO created.Hope this is clear

You can check same in below answered link.

[Former Member]

122 and 161 both are some for return to vendor

No QM role.

122 can be done from MIGO

161 needs new PO with return check box selected in PO item overview. Make MGO with 161 movement type not 101

[Former Member]

Check this link:

[BijayKumarBarik]

Hi,

Check the links for use of 122MT Vs 161MTin details:

http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPSCM/Returnwithdeliveries

Regards,

Biju K