Relationship A742 (Indirect Reports To)

[Former Member]

Hello,

According to SAP help documentation,

"You can use the indirect relationship A742 (Indirectly Reports To) between the employee's position and the manager's position. This is derived from the relationship A003 (Belongs To) between the employee's position and the organizational unit and the relationship A012 (Manages#) between the manager's position and the organizational unit."

My questions are :

1. What does it mean by relationship A742 is derived from relationship A003/A012 ? Does it mean setting up relationship A003/A012 automatically sets the relationship A742 ? (I have created the relationship A003/A012, but checking the table HRP1001 shows no relationship A742 created).

2. When I try to create a relationship in txn. PO13 (Expert mode) between 2 positions with the relationship A742, system prompts "Relationship S A 742 S cannot be maintained using basic transaction". In that case, how do I actually maintain this relationship ?

Thank you.

Regards

Kir Chern

[Former Member]

I take this to mean when I'm in an Org Unit, my manager is designated by the Chief relationship. Now the requirement arises that I also have another line manager for which I report to for some duties. To get this second manager, I need to tie my position to his/her position using A742.

The new problem is that you cannot use PO13 or PP01 to enter an S to S, even though it is considered an "Allowed Relationship". T777E

Now I do notice on T777E that the "not maintained" check box is checked, unlike the Dotted Line Manager found in 005.

So the question for me is "how do you maintain the relationship"....OR....should one just remove the "not maintained flag" on the relationship, so you can do forward??

[Former Member]

Hi Albert, from my previous post, I noted that A742 is not a relationship that you maintain as a physical record between two objects. The relationship is completely logical and implemented through the class mentioned above.

here is what is defined in img instructions for determining reporting relationships...

Indirect:

You can use the indirect relationship A742 (Indirectly Reports To) between the employee#s position and the manager#s position. This is derived from the relationship A003 (Belongs To) between the employee#s position and the organizational unit and the relationship A012 (Manages#) between the manager#s position and the organizational unit.

Direct:

You can use the direct relationship A002 (Reports (Line) To) between the employee#s position and the manager#s position.

[Former Member]

Hi Kir Chernj,

very good question. The trick is, not all defined relationships result in physical records created as relationships between objects (rows in hrp1001)

In this case the relationship is a logical definition. check transaction oovk, where relationships are maintained... navigate to a742, select relationship A742. Once selected choose folder "external relationships". Here you can see the implementation of the a742 logic embedded within class : CL_HRTMC_EXT_RELATION_A742

compare this configuration to an example where you know a physical record gets created, such as A012.

Hope that helps.

Best Regards,

Michael

[Former Member]

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