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Hi Guys

I am configuring a new build of SSM 7.5. SP2 This is the first time I have configured this version. It has been set up as JPIP and in the past I have used only CPIP.

My understanding is that JPIP does not require the technical user to connect to the web service. However when I go into the SSM Admin --> Manage Connections and create connections, I see the field for the PAS system name, Pas system logon and password just as I would for CPIP. When I enter values of local host, pipadmin and the pipadmin UME password, the system fails to connect to PAS. I sort of expect this, since pipadmin is a UME user and not a Windows user. My question is does this indicate the system thinks it is still CPIP?

The piptype Java property in UME is set to JPIP and under tools I can see the JPIP Session monitor. This indicates it is JPIP.

Also the 7.5 configuration guide does not mention creating a BICDefault connection. Does this mean 7.5 no longer requires that connnection?



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    Posted on Jul 02, 2010 at 07:57 AM

    Hi Cliff,

    Both in CPIP and in JPIP the values you need to enter to create a model connection are the same.

    The PAS logon and password and the OS user and password for the server where PAS is installed. This is not a UME user, and this is why you are having an error. Find or create a local user with admin rights and use that information in this screen.

    Many of our customer create local users in the operating system, ume users and even PAS users all called pipadmin and that only adds to the confusion.

    My advice is to have different user names for different users in different applications 😉

    Best regards,

    Ricardo Vieira

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2010 at 01:45 PM


    It can be a little confusing making this transition to JPIP if you are familiar with CPIP. If you are installing SSM 7.5 on a Windows server, you are still using your Windows Registry User for the model connections.

    To keep that user separate from pipadmin, I recommend using a user name like pasuser or pip_connect, so there is no ongoing confusion about user name/password with Model Connections. (By far the most common problems with Model Connection are around not having the correct user/password).

    JPIP allows more flexibility, since you access it from Tools, which is web based, so that allows administrators that don't have access to the server the ability to restart services. With CPIP you have to restart Extended Listener and Listener services on the Windows server. Plus, in JPIP, you can select individual instances to restart, instead of having to restarted everything in CPIP. The JPIP tool also provides more information that can be helpful when troubleshooting.

    You will have to remind yourself that you don't use Extended Listener anymore to restart services now that you have JPIP.

    You are going to need a BICDEFAULT model connection if you use BICA.

    I would also recommend, if this is a new install, of moving immediately to SP6.



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    Posted on Jul 04, 2010 at 11:54 PM

    Thank you both. Your answers have made it clear what I was doing wrong.



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