sap installation in intel core i3 i5 i7 processor

[Former Member]

Hi

I am planning to buy a laptop with intel core i3 i5 i7 processor. can I install sap ides or sap gui in this system

someone told me that intel core i3 i5 i7 do not support sap installation

is it true? please guide me

Thanks and regards

raghu

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

> I am planning to buy a laptop with intel core i3 i5 i7 processor. can I install sap ides or sap gui in this system

> someone told me that intel core i3 i5 i7 do not support sap installation

As long as you use a supported Windows version (Windows 2003 x64, Windows 2008 x64) and you have a license for IDES you can do the installation.

Markus

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Markus

Thanks for your reply

The OS is windows 7

Is it the same as windows 2008? does it support installation?

Thanks and Regards

Raghu

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Hi

I am planning to buy sony vaio HiVPCEB16FG/L

OS is windows 7. intel i3 processor. Please advise

Thanks and Regards,

Raghu

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

The OS is windows 7 
Is it the same as windows 2008? does it support installation?

No !.. Both are different Operating Systems, One is SERVER OS and other one is CLIENT OS.

As Markus already said...

For IDES installation, you need SERVER operating system, NOT client operating system such as Windows 7 or Windows XP.

You can use 64bit Windows Server 2003 or Windows Server 2008 which are server operating system.

Windows 7 is a Client Operating system, so doesn't support IDES installation.

With 32bit Server Operating system, refer the below note for IDES installation..

[Note 1244548 - IDES ERP 6.0 ECC 6.0 SR3|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1244548]

Regards.

Rajesh Narkhede

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

I3 processor is not supporting sap installation i have tried several times installation will start and system will run very slowly

please check the hardware expertise in the service centre and then you take up the laptop.

core 2 duo was far better than i3 processor,i 3 processor is fast in windows 7 only.

Regards

Zia

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

> I3 processor is not supporting sap installation i have tried several times installation will start and system will run very slowly

I don't know where you get this information from - but as long as a standard windows OS runs on the system a SAP system can be theoretically installed.

> core 2 duo was far better than i3 processor,i 3 processor is fast in windows 7 only.

Yes, because they are designed for graphics acceleration, not for server side processing - but there's no place that SAP does not "support" them. SAP certifies machines of several hardware vendors, not processors.

Markus

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Hi,

They are giving the system with windows 7.

i) In order to install SAP can I install windows server 2003/ 2008 OS?

ii) If I want to install SAP GUI only (instead of SAP IDES), is windows 7 sufficient (without the need to install server 2003/ 2008 OS)?

Regards,

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Raghu,

i) In order to install SAP can I install windows server 2003/ 2008 OS?

Yes, to install SAP (IDES) you must install Server 2003 or 2008. It require SERVER Operating System.

ii) If I want to install SAP GUI only (instead of SAP IDES), is windows 7 sufficient (without the need to install server 2003/ 2008 OS)?

Yes, you can install SAP GUI on Windows 7, XP, 2003, 2008 and SAP GUI for Java on Unix platform..

Regards.

Rajesh Narkhede

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Dear Markus

Your giving wrong information, if SAP doesn't certifies CPU, why do they have Itanium CPU based components to install SAP?

Please Dont misguide , SAP also depends on CPU , please note i3 series from Intel do-not supports SAP.

Regards

rajiv

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Dear Rajiv,

When you will have as much SAP experience as Markus has, you may try to tell that he is misguiding...

SAP does not support Itanium cpus but does support some servers which use itanium processors.

How do I know ? my company's SAP production sytems run on itanium based servers.

SAP support is also designed for production systems on server hardware, not for toy installations on laptops.

Regards,

Olivier

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Hi,

I think you probably has a confussion of terms.

SAP does not certifies CPU's, they Certifies HW Arquitectures, RDBMS's and OS's, as an example take the X86 "Based" CPU's, there is a lot of CPU's that fits into this arquitecture, CPU's like the i3 and so for sure (I haven´t read about them) are based on X86 as AMD's 64 based CPU's also, you will be able to install SAP in any computer with any of this X86 based CPU's.

The difference is that for example a Xeon Processor (X86 Based) is purposedly made for Servers and a Dual Core CPU with low Cache capacity and Low Bus Speed like the ones used in most of the Portable and Personal Computers are made for different purposes. I3 CPU's are probably made for Multimedia use so in this case it is oriented not as a Server oriented CPU but mostly for personal use, this is why it should runs SAP but it is too slow.

Other HW related parts like the MotherBoard are also made specifically for servers as they usually has high Bus Speeds, also faster RAM Memory and so are specific for this or that use. Try to find 2 Gb for a Portable Computer and try to find 2 Gb for a Server and you will find a difference in price, it is not a marketing issue!!, of course you can find costly and faster memory for Portable Computer but HW companies does not includes them in most of the Personal systems because this systems are not made for server use so it will never be so fast than the ones made for Servers.

As for the question someone did about to disable Graphics, are you serious?

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

> Your giving wrong information, if SAP doesn't certifies CPU, why do they have Itanium CPU based components to install SAP?

> Please Dont misguide , SAP also depends on CPU , please note i3 series from Intel do-not supports SAP.

They don't certify the CPU but they certify the operating system with the CPU - I'd call this "architecture". For IA64 there are many options:

- Windows IA64 (Windows 2003/Windows 2008 (R2))

- Linux IA64 (Redhat, SuSE)

- HP-UX IA (11.23 and 11.31)

- OpenVMS 8.x

- NSK

- FreeBSD

- ...

All those operating systems can run on a machine with an IA64 CPU where as only for the first three there is SAP software available. For Unix systems it has always be the OS that is certified (because the OS vendor makes sure the OS runs on the CPU given), for Windows there are vendor certifications (from HP, Dell, Bull, IBM....).

You could e. g. also run Solaris 10 on an i3 CPU and when in 64bit mode you can install a SAP system on it. Whether it runs fast or not depends on the used processor and here comes the "i"core thing. As already mentioned by a different poster server CPUs have bigger caches, different internal bus structures and may be even set up as NUMA machines to increase the throughput.

Long story short, if your "laptop" or whatever machine you have can run a Windows Server operating system then you can install - technically - a SAP system on it.

Markus

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Oliver,

Please go thorough forum discussions, it Markus was pointing out CPUs or not certified, and you are also confirming that Itanium CPUs do not support, it better to learn form you. Please go thru SAP reference to CPUs lsited and support components.

Regards

Rajiv

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Dear Oliver,

Please go through the forum and refer, Markus was pointing out SAP not certifies on CPUs and was mentioning about ITANIUM CPUs ,SAP certifies based on server and not on CPUs , then Why SAP has released Itanium based components.

Your are also certifying Itanium CPUs are not supported, then it better please contact SAP/HP.

Regards

Rajiv

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Hi Rajiv,

I am looking for one laptop with 1 Gb graphics card, 4GB RAM, 500 GB Hard Disk and with High End Processor(Either AMD or Intel).

I got HP DV6t series..

I just want one information, that incase if Intel processors(i series) doesn't support SAP, then can i go for AMD processors.

If it is the case, is there any processor from AMD which will not support SAP.

Thanks

Praveen

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

> I just want one information, that incase if Intel processors(i series) doesn't support SAP, then can i go for AMD processors.

> If it is the case, is there any processor from AMD which will not support SAP.

I can just repeat what's written here three times (at least):

SAP doesn't certify "processors" for Windows but operating systems. If your OS (Windows 2008 e.g .) runs on that machine you can install SAP software on it.

Markus

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Markus,

I think that you are loosing your time giving exact answers that these guys don't want to understand.

The new game in town seems to have a "SAP enabled" laptop...

Regards,

Olivier

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

> I think that you are loosing your time giving exact answers that these guys don't want to understand.

> The new game in town seems to have a "SAP enabled" laptop...

Apparently this is the case... even the "coffee Corner" gets now that question:

Markus

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Marcus,

Thanks for your reply..

Actually the question was for Rajiv. I read all the posts related to this thread. So only I asked Rajiv for the answer.

Infact, i am looking for AMD Pheno II Quad core or Dual Core processor. i am not having any experience with AMD and even with SAP Installation.

Anyway Thanks for your reply.

@Oliver: There will not be any wastage of time in earning knowledge on different kind of scenarios. I am not expert as you to understand in depth..

Thanks for that.

Praveen Sanjeev

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi

iam planning to buy a Sony Vaio laptop with intel processor i3,i5,i7 (anyone).is this i3,i5,i7 Processors are supoort for SAP IDES Installation?

some guys told me if the processors(i3,i5,i7) are release in 2010 it cant support SAP IDES Installation.

what about 2011 release Processors is it support or Not support?

Please Let me know the correct Laptop with correct information

Thanks

Prasad

[markus_doehr2 · Accepted solution]

Just read the thread...

Markus

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Markus,

I have read the thread. You and the other guys made it clear that SAP doesn't certify the processor but the OS. So it doesn't matter which processor you are running as long as it supports those certified operating systems.

However, lets say that all Intel 2nd generation processors (i3, i5, i7) support Windows Server 2003/ 2008, my questions would be:

- How to choose the better processor among them or there will be no difference?

- As you mentioned that these processors are made more for gaming and not server-oriented, how slow the SAP will be running on them?

- Is a PC with a server-oriented processor (e.g. Intel® Xeon) enough to run SAP fast or there are another HW should be taken into considerations?

Because there are some small workstations in the market like (e.g. Dell PowerEdge) which cost less than what a PC with those 2nd generation processors does. So i would like to know whether it is worth to go for the "small workstation" option.

Regards,

A.Q

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Rajesh,

Pls let me know can we install windows server 2003 on LG i5 laptop, If so guide me with the steps.

Regards,

Rahul

[Former Member]

Hi Gurus

I want to Install SAP IDES EHp6 Version in my Laptop. Can you Please Let me know the Specifications required for Laptop. And is there anything like with 3rd Generation Intel Processors it will run Good and with 4th Generation Processors it will be slow.

Kindly suggest on this

Thanks & regards

Mahesh

[Former Member]

off course u can install windows2003 and u can also install sap also on i3,am not sure about i5 and i7 dude........

[Former Member]

Hi raghu,

i am also planning to buy a laptop with i3/i5/i7 processor.

i have heard that windows server 2003 is not getting installed on these processors.

so if we are not able to install server 2003 then we wont be able to install sap on it.

Kindly let me know your thoughts on this.

Regards,

Sharad

[Former Member]

Hi ,

operating system 2003 gets installed in the (i3/i5/i7) systems only thing is it will be very slow As mentioned abiove it is supported specially for graphics so we your can disable graphics sap will also gets installed easily.

Regards

Zia

[Former Member]

Hi Zia,

Is there any option where we can disable graphics in i3,i5 and i7 processor? once we uninstall graphics is the performance is good when we install SAP in the system.

Waiting for the reply as planning to buy i5 processor, thank u in advance.

Regards,

Sujatha

[markus_doehr2]

> Is there any option where we can disable graphics in i3,i5 and i7 processor? once we uninstall graphics is the performance is good when we install SAP in the system.

"uninstall graphics"?

I can just repeat what's written a few times here already:

The processor is not significant - if the operating system runs on it.

A SAP system is not suited for a "laptop install", neither 4.7x nor other versions.

You may get better performance by omitting Windows (in whatever version) alltogether and install Linux on the laptop where you can run graphics for installation and shut it down to release more memory.

Markus