CIN query ???

[Former Member]

hii All

Can some exaplin me about this step in Excise scenario.

What is the purpose of this transaction J1I5 in CIN?? What exactly is happening in this transaction ??

what is ..Update of registers RG1 and RG23 (Part1)??

Clearly explain with example .

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

This is purely excise statury requirement. The excise authority at any point of time if they want to know what is the raw material you have procured & what is finished goods you have removed(Sold) from the factory Premises they will check the below registers.

RG23 A part 1 - Raw material - Qty wise / Vendor wise

Rg23 A Part 2 - Raw material - Value wise/ Vendor wise

Rg23 C Part 1 - Capital goods - Qty wise

RG23C Part2 0 Capital Goods(assets.tools) - Value wise / Vendor wise

Rg1- Finished goods prouced & despatched(removed) from factory

Assume you procure raw material form a vendor by paying excise duty of 10 rs(RG23A Part2) & you have produced a FG & selling it to customer & you are cahrging him a excise duty of 15 rs.- RG1( since value addition is made to that raw material). As a logic the value of 15 rupees should be paid to the govt, but you can deduct from this a amount (rs10) to a extent of whatever you have paid to the vendor. I.e 15-10 = Rs 5 should be paid to the govt., This activity is performed monthly using J2iun transaction(Month end Utilization). The details of the above should be submitted to the govt in the way of excise registers such as RG23A part1 & 2, RG23C part1 & 2 & RG1 register(but excise authority least bothered abt part1)

J1i5 - Is used to update the above registers(part1 for RG23a, c & RG1)

J2i5- to extract the above

J2i6 -To print the above + part 2 register also

RG23A/C part 2 will get updated at the time excise inv posting in J1iex(i.e after GR)

These are the basics of CIN.ask if further query needed,

regards,

S.Senthilkumar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

This is purely excise statury requirement. The excise authority at any point of time if they want to know what is the raw material you have procured & what is finished goods you have removed(Sold) from the factory Premises they will check the below registers.

RG23 A part 1 - Raw material - Qty wise / Vendor wise

Rg23 A Part 2 - Raw material - Value wise/ Vendor wise

Rg23 C Part 1 - Capital goods - Qty wise

RG23C Part2 0 Capital Goods(assets.tools) - Value wise / Vendor wise

Rg1- Finished goods prouced & despatched(removed) from factory

Assume you procure raw material form a vendor by paying excise duty of 10 rs(RG23A Part2) & you have produced a FG & selling it to customer & you are cahrging him a excise duty of 15 rs.- RG1( since value addition is made to that raw material). As a logic the value of 15 rupees should be paid to the govt, but you can deduct from this a amount (rs10) to a extent of whatever you have paid to the vendor. I.e 15-10 = Rs 5 should be paid to the govt., This activity is performed monthly using J2iun transaction(Month end Utilization). The details of the above should be submitted to the govt in the way of excise registers such as RG23A part1 & 2, RG23C part1 & 2 & RG1 register(but excise authority least bothered abt part1)

J1i5 - Is used to update the above registers(part1 for RG23a, c & RG1).The various classifications are

RMA - Is used for receipts(FG GR from Prodn booking)

IDH-Removal from Factory(Despatches)

IDE / IWE- Used for export despatches(removal without payment of duty)

ROP- Initial stock receipts

All the above movement types to be activated for excise transactions in SPRO

J2i5- to extract the above

J2i6 -To print the above + part 2 register also

RG23A/C part 2 will get updated at the time excise inv posting in J1iex(i.e after GR)

These are the basics of CIN.ask if further query needed,

regards,

S.Senthilkumar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

hii

Thanks

Can u tel me Whethere its mandatory for SD persons to update the RG1 registers using J1I5??

Explain me the impacts of this , its mandatory or optional from SD and MM view .????

Thanks

[former_member187989]

See this wiki page for Registers updation

http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/EXCISEREGISTERSUPDATION,EXTRACTIONAND+PRINTING.

Check also this link

http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm

Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Apr 15, 2010 10:19 AM

[former_member187989]

Quantity update happens here in J1I5 for all regisers,particulary RG1 Registers can be first

updated with RMA Classification(Production receipts) later with IDH Classification(Removal from factory for sales),

Intial stock can be updated with ROP Classification subsequently with IDH Classification,

for exports,deemed exports,SEZ Sales(IDE etc..,),All registers should be updated,extracted as daily activities based

on daily production & sales recorded physically.

More details can be found in wiki pages....

[Former Member]

Dear Friend,

In some organisation GRN person is not aware that whether

CENVAT would be applicable or not .

To avoid this unnecessary entry , they create GRN with no excise entry .

later on If CENVAT is applicable they update the register through J1i5.

Following are the detailed steps:-

1 Step -Create Good Receipt without Excise entry Cretaion .

2 Step-

Posting in RG23 Part 1

Use T Code j1i5 enter following data

Company Code xxx

Plant xxx

Excise Group XX

Material Document no XXXXXXXXXX

Posting Date XXXXXXX

Movement Type 101

Storage location xxx

Classification ROP Receipt from outside under any other provision

click on radio button Document posting Date

click on radio button Register RG 23 Part 1

3 Step

Use Tcode J1iex for Capture with reference of Material Document XXXXXXXXX.

Enter Excise Invoice no XX

Enter Invoice Date XXXXX

Posting Date XXX

And check all the data and Simulate and post Save.

Rgds,

Kareena

[Former Member]

hii

Thanks for ur response, what about the RG1 register ??

Whethere its mandatory for SD persons to update the RG1 registers using J1I5??

Thanks

SAP-MM

[Former Member]

Dear SAP-MM,

I dont think RG1 is necessary in the above scenario..

Rgds,

Kareena

[Former Member]

hii thanks

Any experts ...........

[former_member192897]

J1i5 is used to Update Excise Registers such as RG1, RG23A / RG23C with the following classifications:

For RG23A / C

ROP

IIM

IPD

IWD

Where as for RG1

RMA / ROP

IDH

IDE

IWE

J2i5 is used for Extracting the Excise Registers.

[Former Member]

the transaction j1i5 will extract the posting of the excise duties against the register and j2i5 will update the registers, after posting the GR it is seen that the posting is done but it will not update the registers.

hope this will help u.