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Support of Oracle for VMware

Oracle, VMware and SAP are working collaboratively to ensure support for SAP customers that use VMware virtualization for SAP solutions running Oracle DB. Functional tests are currently being performed to verify supportability of the SAP & Oracle stack. Details will be made available in SAP Note 1173954 u201CSupport of Oracle for VMware and XENu201D after tests have been completed. It is expected that in Q1 2010, ESX 3.5 and later releases including vSphere 4 will be supported by Oracle and SAP according to Oracleu2019s Article ID 249212.1.

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    Dec 08, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    Dear Matthias Schlarb

    Thank you very much for this very good news!

    Why doing functional tests? A lot of SAP customers are allready running successfully SAP with Oracle on Vmware.

    Ask this customers and you have the best test results.

    We are running SAP Enterprise Portal 7.0 & SAP SRM Catalog 3.0 (MDM) with Oracle 10.2.0.4 on Vmware 3.5. On Q1 we migrate our PI on the Vmware infrastructre.

    Kind Regards

    SAP Technical Consultant

    Stadt Biel / Ville de Bienne

    Informatik und Logistik / Informatique et logistique

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    • > Our Management might not be interested in the risk involved, even if they are minor.

      I personally consider the risk of running into a Windows bug or getting hit by some 0-day exploit (e. g. Conficker, the notorious SMB bug) much higher than running into an Oracle problem because of VMWare. I don't want to start a silly flame war here, I just think that "Windows" and "low risk" don't go together; IMO is the VMWare from a risk management your lowest concern but as stated, that's only my personal opinion (burnt child dreads the fire).

      > I would be interested to see what id the view for other companies.

      As I posted in another thread we had a situation where the (non-sap) application vendor blamed the database, the database vendor blamed the OS and the OS vendor blamed VMWare - and we in the middle.

      However, this was only a small application and I'm sure SAP will do all what's possible to ensure the customers doesn't run in such a situation.

      Markus

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    Mar 02, 2010 at 01:13 PM

    Is it right that only Windows 2008 is supported for Oracle 10.2.0.4 virtualization?

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      Hm, actually, the statement "minimum recommended Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008" can be considered as ambiguous. In fact, every Windows version which is supported by the PAM (service.sap.com/pam) is supported, but Oracle recommends using Windows 2008.

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    Mar 29, 2010 at 01:26 PM

    Oracle MetaLink note 249212.1 still contains similar language to what SAP continues to have in note 1173954 -- that Oracle has not certified any of its products on VMware, and that problems may need to be demonstrated on native/physical hardware.

    The "SAP on Oracle: Development Update February 2010" (available from SDN) on page 28 states "New: Oracle does now support VMware for productive SAP environments" yet this statement is not called out on either MetaLink or Service Marketplace in quite that strong of language.

    Note 1173954 has been positively updated, and states prerequisites for using Oracle on VMware in the SAP environment, but in the solution section it still states that Oracle has not certified its products on VMware, and that problems may still need to be confirmed to be not only on VMware but on native hardware as well. This somewhat contradicts the statement in the development update.

    I opened a note with SAP last week, and was told that if problems occur, that "...the problem must be confirmed to occur on native hardware as well as VMWare. For the time being there are no plans for complete certification on top of virtualization products and hence reproduction is needed on native hardware." This does not feel like full support.

    Regards,

    Mark

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      MaxDB is the only database for SAP where virtualization is supported without any reservation. For DB2 on LUW and MS SQL apply similar restrictions as for Oracle, but it's not discussed that loudly.

      http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?&uid=wws1e333ce0912f7b152852571f60074d175

      http://windowsservercatalog.com/svvp.aspx?svvppage=svvpsupport.htm

      The major change of SAP Note 1173954 in January this year is that before that change it was not supported to run SAP on Oracle on VMware. Now you can do it under the same policies that apply for DB2 on LUW and MS SQL. That every error "must be confirmed on native" is not correct. SAP Global Support - which includes staff from Oracle and VMware - will decide when and how it has to be reproduced. From a technical point of view it's clear that this makes only sense in rare cases. Nobody wants to tease customers just for fun.