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Embedding MaxDB

Dear Sirs,

We are interested in migrating from MSDE2000 to MaxDB, used as an embedded database. Our application is a shrinkwrapped server-side application, including all its dependencies (database, JRE, web server, everything) into a single .exe. Our customers can install our app on a new server in few minutes without worrying about other dependencies or internals.

The problem is that MaxDB setup (maxdb-all-win-32bit-i386-7_7.exe ) is 150 MB and includes everything, from db to drivers. We could try including only the database kernel (sdbkern.tgz, sdbbas.tgz), but I am afraid the license requires the software to be distributed only complete:

"i) you distribute the Software Product complete and unmodified "

This is really a showstopper for us to use this as an embedded database. MSDE2000 has about 30 MB, Postgres can be trimmed to 15 MB, FIrebird about 8 MB.

Ideally the license would be ammended to allow us fine grain control, file-by-file over what is included, as to have an optimized setup with minimum size.

I feel this is only a licensing oversight, should be easy to fix. Simply remove the "complete" word.

Thanks,

Rares

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    Posted on Aug 31, 2009 at 07:10 AM

    Rares,

    to complete this questions please let me quote from the other answer I've posted to you:

    ".... For the time being we will not invest in development topics not required for the sole purpose of running SAP programs.

    ...

    So we encourage the community to use and run MaxDB (for non-SAP environments) wherever it fits as offered - and to use the SDN Wiki, Documentation, Forum .... and more. We will continue this and it is a good offer."

    Changing the license is no short term process, repackaging binaries different to our standards neither - e.g. due continous quality assurance measures.

    I will not exclude that we revisit things in the future, but not now.

    Best regards

    Jörg

    Development and Product Mgmt MaxDB/liveCache

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    Posted on Aug 03, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Dear Sirs,

    If changing the license is not acceptable for you, maybe you could release the components as separate install packages:

    - a minimal installation package, containing only the DB kernel

    - drivers

    - WebSQL

    - etc

    That would be less elegant than just changing the license, but perhaps easier since it does not involve lawyers :-).

    I am sure you agree that a setup of 150 MB+ only for the DB is impractical, compared with the kernel of about 18 MBs. And that the drivers and extra stuff have no place into a well tuned installation.

    Thank you for your help.

    Rares

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    Posted on Sep 04, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    Hello Jorg,

    Thanks for the answer. Regarding your saying "Changing the license is no short term process,":

    If tweaking the license to remove one word ("complete") is not short term, I don't know what is. The binary packaging is good as it is, and pretty well structured. I will wait in the hope that somebody, sometimes, will remove that word from the license agreement.

    Regards,

    Rares

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