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ITALY Mandatory changes in VAT declarations, Intrastat, Spesometro and black list

Hi All,

Did you heard something about the new file to produce on a quaterly basis for VAT in Itlay ?

See Law Decree No 193 of the 22nd of October 2016. It must be in place for 2017.

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  • May 23, 2017 at 07:02 AM

    Hi,

    new note 2470594 - Italy: Periodic VAT Return as of 2017 has been released.

    Cheers

    Cristian

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      Thanks for your post. This note integrate oss note 247690. Now it seems all more complete.

      Note 247690 is updated whith the new deadline set to 12th of june, but as wrote by Francesco De Lillo it is not an official and confirmated date. A greater extension is possible, but at the moment the only official date is still 31st of may.

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    Mar 02, 2017 at 03:14 AM

    Hello All

    I am wondering the same, do you know if SAP AG is working in a standard solution to meet this requirement?

    Thanks

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  • Mar 03, 2017 at 10:54 AM

    Hi,

    this has just appeared today:

    2316852 - RFIDITVCL (Spesometro): Customer Exit Section TU

    Best regards,

    Pablo

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    Apr 18, 2017 at 09:06 AM

    Agenzia delle Entrate has released two requirement on last two weeks:

    1) "Comunicazione delle liquidazioni periodiche IVA" that is the new VAT Declaration. The requirement is only in draft: I think SAP is waiting for a definitive version

    2) "Comunicazione delle Fatture Emesse e Ricevute" that is the new "Spesometro/Black list": the requirement is definitive and I think SAP start working on it.

    Both declaration will be in XML format.

    The two notes reminded by Pablo are not for these new declarations: 2316852 - RFIDITVCL (Spesometro): Customer Exit Section TU is for the old spesometro (fiscal year 2016); 2436501 - RFIDITVCL (Spesometro) - Technical Note is for Spain and not for Italy.

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      Hi Lorenzo,

      do you know if there are any news about :

      2) "Comunicazione delle Fatture Emesse e Ricevute" that is the new "Spesometro/Black list": the requirement is definitive and I think SAP start working on it.

      I can't find anything.

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    May 04, 2017 at 10:46 AM

    Hi all,

    an update on Agenzia delle Entrate specifics:

    at the following link you can download the model and instruction for VAT periodic liquidation:

    Modello e istruzioni - Comunicazione liquidazioni periodiche IVA

    for technical specification (for xml and xsd schemas) you have to click on "Specifiche tecniche" link.

    On the above link you'll find information both for the "new spesometro" and for the "vat periodic liquidation". Be careful that 90% of documentation refers to the new "Spesometro", but the link Provvedimento del 27 marzo 2017 contains technical specifications for Vat periodic liquidation.

    A second link SpecificheIVP17 - zip contains a ZIP file with the XSD contro schema for the VAT period liquidation XML file.

    Keep in mind that Black List declaration is repealed: all invoinces referred to old black list country must be inserted in "new spesometro" model.

    On the SAP Support sites there are no news yet about notes or pilote notes.

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  • May 10, 2017 at 10:35 AM

    Hi all,

    I just found this note : 2470690 - Quarterly Vat declaration.

    It has released yesterday.

    Claudia

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      Hi all,
      now is possible to add the data. The note 2470690 is referenced by the note 2470594.

      The note 2470594 has as pre-requisite the note 2473632.
      After these implementations, is possible to add the information in FOTED2.

      I've done all the rest of customizing as indicates the guide present in the note 2470690.

      The transaction FOTV now works perfectly.

      Thanks

      Massimiliano

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    May 10, 2017 at 02:53 PM

    Thank you Claudia,

    I checked the oss note [2470690 - Quarterly Vat declaration] but seems that you need to update entries in table FOTPARREFC in order to be able to set up the customizing in transaction FOTED2.

    Table FOTPARREFC is currently empty for country 'IT' : does anyone know which are the entries to be done? note 2470690 does not provide any info about that...

    Davide

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    May 12, 2017 at 01:18 PM

    oss note 2470690 has received today (may 12th) an update: a possible delay to june 15th

    the note contains some word about that (in italian, see below):

    UPDATE 12/05/17

    Il vice ministro dell’Economia Casero ha annunciato la possibile proroga amministrativa della comunicazione liquidazione IVA 2017 rispetto alla scadenza originaria del 31 maggio. Si attende un probabile provvedimento del Direttore dell’Agenzia delle entrate che preveda la possibilità di inviare il file telematico della comunicazione dati entro il 10-15 giugno.

    In oss note 1957498 VAT Ledger for Slovakia there are instruction to popolate tables FOTPARAMC and FOTPARREFC in the attached file Declaration_SK_Configuration Manual.docx. Instruction are for Slovakia, but it is reasonable to assume that for Italy you must substitute SK_VAT string with IT_VAT

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    May 25, 2017 at 02:38 PM

    About "New Spesometro/Comunicazione delle Fatture Emesse e Ricevute" with deadline 18 Sep 2017 (for first semester 2017) .

    We can anticipate something on the system (load others notes) , or the new solution is completely new ?

    Do you know when the solution will be released ?

    thanks for your help.

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    Jun 05, 2017 at 12:55 PM
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    Generating xml file in FOTV I obtain a file without items (without amount) despite in RFUMSV00 amount are extracted.

    IN customizing I've setted the VAT code for selling in group 2 (Totale operazioni attive) and 4(IVA esigibile) whiyt sign H (credit) in accordance whith RFUMSV00 and in a mirror way for purchasing vat code (group 3 and 5).

    I've missed something? I followed the manual "Documentation_IT_VATReturn.pdf attached.pdf" attached in oss note 2470594.

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