US / CAN Workshops -- feedback?

[Former Member]

As announced at the Congress, the North American UA program will be offering workshops at three locations in June and July. The date and locations below are firm. The topics taught at each location and the class length are still flexible -- we would like your feedback on this. Independent of this discussion thread, we are having similar conversations with workshop instructors and curriculum developers. Once finalized, the details will be published on the UA Events page in the UAC Welcome Center.

Please note: these workshops are only available to faculty actively using SAP software in their university curricula, as part of their campus full University Alliances program membership (if your school is interested in joining, see program info on the UAC Program Overview page (https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/overview)

Based on prior feedback, our goal was to ensure that workshops were the right length for necessary knowledge transfer - not automatically one week long, so you'll see a combination of 1 day, 2 day and 5 day sessions. The self-contained topics (1 day courses) will be offered via distance learning to save you travel time & expense. In addition to our traditional course topics, we will also be announcing monthly webinars designed to introduce best practices for successful UA initiatives and new curricula.

Week 1: HEC Montreal, June 8 - 12

SAP Introduction - 5 days

HEC Business Simulation - 5 days

Business Intelligence - 5 days

Business One - 2 days

Week 2: CSU Chico, June 22 - 26

SAP for Retail - 2 days

Accounting - 5 days

Business Process Integration - 5 days

Customer Relationship Management - 5 days

TERP10 train-the-trainer - 5 days

Week 3: UW Milwaukee, July 13 - 17

SAP Introduction - 5 days

SAP NetWeaver - 2 topics, 2 days each (ttl 4 days)

Supply Chain Management - 5 days

Human Capital Management - 5 days

Distance learning: all 1 day long, dates TBD

Business Intelligence (Business Objects content only)

Solution Manager

Flya Kite

What are your thoughts?

Best,

Heather

[mark_angolia]

The current dates for the Milwaukee workshop are ok with the ECU faculty. We'd like to have 2 people attend and need to register ASAP due to budget constraints. I can't find anywhere to register or anything more that the dates. Am I missing something?

[Former Member]

Heather,

When do you anticipate registration will open for the various workshops?

Thanks,

Mike Murray

University of Houston

[Former Member]

Heather,

I am planning to incorporate SAP into my Spring 2010 supply chain course. If the dates for Montreal event does not change, I will attend to the SAP intro course in Montreal. If the supply chain course is offered either on july 21st or july 27th, I will be able attend this year.

I hope the registration will open soon that we can go ahead and make travel arrangements.

thanks

Bayram

Wichita State University

[Former Member]

Would anybody be interested in having the Week 3 workshop on July 27-31 instead of July 13 - 17? Note that Week 3 workshop is on SAP Introduction - 5 days, SAP NetWeaver - 2 topics, 2 days each (ttl 4 days), Supply Chain Management - 5 days or Human Capital Management - 5 days.

Having the workshop this late may enable those who are teaching during the summer semester to attend. On the other hand it may be too late for faculty to get the workshop content and then use the materials during the Fall semester...

Bayram

Wichita State University

[Former Member]

I think we should move it forward by a week in Milwaukee (July 6- July 13). The summerfest ends on July 5, so it will be easier to get hotels. In Penn State, we start classes on August 24. End of July will be too late.

Thanks,

Abbi

Edited by: Abhijit Dutt on Apr 3, 2009 6:04 AM

[HDM]

The issue with July 6 - 10, is that faculty would need to travel on the 4th of July weekend (Sunday, July 5th). Historically faculty haven't liked that - and flight costs tend to be more expensive and airports are busy. We've gotten fairly low attendance when we've tried this in the past.

With the golf tournament happening through July 19th, that night will also be very expensive in local hotels, so that pretty much eliminates July 20 - 24th since there will be several classes that need to begin first thing Monday morning to cover the content.

That leaves us with a couple of choices.

1. We could consider a Tuesday - Saturday (July 7 - 11) or Tuesday - Saturday (July 21 - 25) workshop (assuming that UW Milwaukee could support a Saturday class and instructors are able to teach on Saturday). That would eliminate the holiday weekend travel since people could fly in on Monday; or the later week would avoid the higher hotel prices.

2. July 27 - 31 that had been proposed in an earlier post. This feels a little late, but it is only 2 weeks later than we were originally thinking for the Milwaukee event.

Any preferences?

Heather

[Former Member]

Heather:

Why we cannot do June 15-19? In terms of UWM it will be better I believe, as the labs are available during day and they do not have to interrupt their classes. Then we have July free for planning our courses. As I am teaching in summer, I will prefer missing a week earlier than missing a week latter.

Abbi

[HDM]

Abbi,

We can't do a 3rd workshop in June for 2 reasons.

Feedback over the years has taught us that back-to-back sessions in different locations tend not to be well attended ... it is just too hard to get people that want to attend 2 topics to the next location when they are traveling home on Friday night/Saturday morning then need to head out again on Sunday. It impacts attendance. Secondly, we want to give faculty that are teaching during the first part of the summer an opportunity to attend at least one of the sessions.

Heather

[Former Member]

Hi Heather:

That is understandable. I guess another option could be to switch the date with either Chico or with Montreal.

Otherwise I will vote for July 6-10 (7-11).

Thanks,

Abbi

[former_member695036]

We plan to send 5 or 6 people to Milwaukee, but need to have the date pinpointed so that people can plan. When do yo expect that a definite date will be determined? (as well as final list of courses)

[Former Member]

Hello Heather:

Because of different issues, I will agree with everyone else that Milwaukee dates should be finalized immediately. It appears that July dates are not ideal for many of us for different reasons. May be we can look into August. One of the benefits of August - most of us will be done with our summer teaching. Although, we are close to start of fall semester, may be we can do some preparations in our institutions in terms of setting up the SAP related course, so that after our return we can just dive into it.

So August first or second week could be an option.

I hope a final decision will be made soon.

Abbi

[Former Member]

Hi Heather:

Just thought that I would mention that the dates for Milwaukee workshop coincides with Milwaukee PGA tournament (July 13 - 19). As a result, hotel prices are very expensive.

Regards,

Abbi

[Former Member]

We would like to see more workshops offered online. Can ERPSIM be offered online during summer?

[former_member583013]

I don't think it is feasible to offer online ERPsim training at this point.

PML

[Former Member]

Hi Heather,

Do you have any idea when the final/definite summer schedule will be released?

Have there been any changes made since your initial post on this?

Thanks!

Tony

[Former Member]

Hi,

Can "HEC Business Simulation" be offered in US or through online?

Thanks

[Former Member]

Can you clarify if TERP10 instructor training is only for regular faculty members rather than for adjunct faculty from UA universities?

Thanks,

Shari

[HDM]

Shari,

The TERP10 is primarily for full-time faculty, as those are the folks that will most likely be available to teach the TERP10 classes at your own campus and others. My expectation is that every faculty member who takes a TERP10 class summer will commit to teaching it. If you have an adjunct instructor that is willing/able to commit to this and we have space available I am happy to have that person join the class.

Heather

[Former Member]

Hello:

I had once taken the SAP Introduction and that was three day long. Could you tell me the difference between "SAP Introduction" and "Business Process Integration" workshops?

Thanks,

Abbi (Abhijit Dutt)

Penn State

[HDM]

Abbi,

Great question. Over the years, we've offered Intro to SAP workshops in both the 3 day and 5 day format. Key difference is the amount of detail the instructor is able to cover, and the number of "how does this apply to my program / how should I use SAP in my classes" type questions. If you've already taken the course in its 3 day format, I would not recommend that you take it again ... you can download the course materials from our private workspace and work through the materials on your own - and post questions on the private forums.

BPI differs from the SAP Intro in terms of the content delivered. BPI does start with a business process overview - to ensure all participants are comfortable with the key ERP processes that will be built. Then you will jump into the set up / configuration of Sales, Purchasing and Financial Accounting processes. You learn how to set up the organizational elements, master data and transactions (i.e. document types) to support these processes.

Best,

Heather

[former_member583013]

Hello Heather,

Will the 'TERP10 Train the trainer' require self study in advance ? If so, how long before the event will the material be available ? I assume that the last day is the certification exam ?

Regards

PML

[HDM]

PML,

As I have it planned at the moment, the TERP10 TTT will be taught in the same blended learning approach we're using with students. Faculty attendees will get access to the materials 30 days prior to the class, and will need to get through the elearning content prior to arriving at the TTT. The certification exam will be on the last day.

Heather

[Former Member]

Heather,

In light of your answer to PML above, does that mean that the TERP10 session will have a $600 fee associated with it? (I'm working on the training budget request.)

Thanks

Tony

[HDM]

PML,

Faculty will pay only for the testing fee. We're currently working to get the final cost of the test nailed down, but I expect it to be in the range of $320 USD for the TTT.

H.

[Former Member]

Heather,

Will the TERP10 Train-the-trainer in Chico be any different from a normal TERP10 course (using the new model)?

I received an email from Milwaukee about a session they were doing in May and wanted to know if there was any meaningful difference.

[HDM]

Tony,

The content delivered will be very similar. The difference will be that in Chico there will only be faculty wishing to teach TERP10 in the class ... so I expect the questions will be more about teaching techniques, classroom management, test administration than than about the software. We will likely have many faculty attending TERP10's in student classes on member campuses. We did the same thing last year, and folks have been very successful teaching afterwards.

Heather

[Former Member]

I'd love to see a TERP10 train-the-trainer slotted for Milwaukee or Montreal.

Along these same lines, it would be great if next year the summer training schedule could be made available much earlier. We locked in our summer class schedule in February, so faculty obligations have already been set. We would have scheduled a couple of things differently if the SAP UA training schedule were known when we did scheduling. (That's why the Chico train-the-trainer is problematic for us.)

Thanks for your work in putting together the training necessary to support our educational programs.

[former_member695036]

Tony,

I second your thoughts about the timing of information.... We must submit for funding, arrange classes, etc., many months in advance -- usually at least one semester in advance. I would love to see tentitive schedules of classes, workshops, and the congress set significantly in advance so that we can ensure that maximum faculty can take advantage of them.