sapinst and BI 7.0

[Former Member]

Hello all,

Just a few questions below ...

1> What is ERP 6.0 EhP3?

2> I also found this particular thread :

which was very helpful ...

Given that BI is automatically incorporated in 2004s (i.e. Netweaver 2004s = BI 7.0), how can one determine if the instance is to be used as a OLTP instance vs. one that is to be reserved for data warehousing altogether.

3>: Below, I came across some text from the following thread:

Yes. It is part of NW2004s. So when you install NW2004s you can select the BI Component. Make sure you select both the BI ABAP and Java stack. Also remember to install the BI content after this. The BI 7.0 has a separate frontend so install that too. Make sure all the frontend and backend are on the same patch level.

Would it be OK idea to just choose AS ABAP (during sapinst) to get the BI 7.0 and then apply BI_CONT to it? This would be one box.

The idea was to place BI_JAVA on a different box that needed other EP, EP Core items (like DI for example).

TIA

Edited by: Casey Harris on Dec 22, 2008 6:25 AM

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Casey Harris you have 27 unresolved question, and all your resolved are like with 2 point ....

Try to read rules : https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement

About your question

1)

What is ERP 6.0 EhP3?

http://service.sap.com/erp-ehp

2)

Given that BI is automatically incorporated in 2004s (i.e. Netweaver 2004s = BI 7.0)

,

it's not truth if you install 2004s yes you can see the BW (BI 7.0) component by default but you need after

add the BI_CONT (try to read "Master Guide" for Netweaver).

3)

When looking at the installation from sapinst, I saw the following choices:

you are looking on installation ERP not NW components ...

How you navigate in SAPINST ? Regards.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Sergo Beradze,

1> For verification, for each question opened, I have a total of 10 points that can be allocated to people who respond to my questions? I thought that we only had a certain number of ponts to start off with (when registering).

> 2) 
Given that BI is automatically incorporated in 2004s (i.e. Netweaver 2004s = BI 7.0)
,
> it's not truth if you install 2004s yes you can see the BW (BI 7.0) component by default but you need after 
> add the BI_CONT (try to read "Master Guide" for Netweaver). 

But - a full BI application has been installed - right? Granted, there is no content starting out to make it useful for applications on the ECC side (because BI_CONT is not there). To me, it looks as though all of the BI software has been installed. Again, the only thing missing is the BI_CONT. From what I read on a previous thread, the term "BI 70" was not to be used anymore. The term "Netweaver 2004s" (upon which ECC 6.0 is installed) was to be used.

>> 3) When looking at the installation from sapinst, I saw the following choices:
> you are looking on installation ERP not NW components ... 
> How you navigate in SAPINST ? Regards.

I took the path that was specified to install a Central Instance.

Out of curiosity, what is the difference between AS ABAP associated with ERP and "NW components"?

-> Both seem to install the basic software for use with BI

-> Both don´t have BI_CONT installed upon them.

TIA

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Per one thread you have limit to ONE 10 point , two 6 point, and unlimit 2 points.

If you read master guide for NW -- >

For usage type BI, there is no installation option in SAPinst. Instead, you have to install AS ABAP
with SAPinst and then SAP NetWeaver 7.0 BI Content Add-On 2 or higher.

If you install ECC (at least ABAP) you will have BI in where , and after you need only add the

BI Content. In any case , for BI(BW) recomended separate installation (not in ECC part)

Regards.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Sergo,

Thanks for the information. I did not know.

>

> If you read master guide for NW -- >
> >For usage type BI, there is no installation option in SAPinst. Instead, you have to install AS ABAP
> with SAPinst and then SAP NetWeaver 7.0 BI Content Add-On 2 or higher.
> If you install ECC (at least ABAP) you will have BI in where , and after you need only add the 
> BI Content. In any case , for BI(BW) recomended separate installation (not in ECC part)
> Regards.

This was my understanding; but, a development environment is being set up. As of now ECC 6.0 IDES has been installed with AS ABAP only (with SID1). Going back to first thought, would it be OK to install a BI AS ABAP (with SID2) on the same box where the ECC 6.0 IDES AS ABAP (SID1) now exists? The RAM on this box is currently 4GB.

And -

-> put BI JAVA on the same box with EP (a third SID3)

-> configure this SID3 so that there is a JCo pool pointing back to the BI AS ABAP instance (SID2)

From what I have seen, BI JAVA is normallz placed on the same box as BI ABAP.

But, in this case, BI JAVA requires EP Core + EP + SDM = much more RAM.

So,

For development purposes, is it OK to take this approach and separate place the BI AS ABAP on a different box than BI AS JAVA? If so, why is this not suggested more often?

TIA

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Sergo,

Also, is there a way to give points to people for answering questions that are now already closed?

TIA

[JPReyes · Accepted solution]

Also, is there a way to give points to people for answering questions that are now already closed?

Read "How to Contibute" is in the top of the tape... also read the "Rules of Engagement"

Regards

Juan

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

We have ABAP Bi and JAVA BI on separate servers ...

If you have only 4 GB memory do not add new instance ...

For what purpose you want BW server? If only for testing (as you have IDES) you can configure on same IDES server ABAP ...

About points if thread are closed , you can do it without problems, open thread and add points ....

Regards.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I thought the idea was not to mix ECC IDES and BI because the DB requirements (configuration) of both would be different.

It looks as though PI_BASIS has already been applied.

I could go ahead and apply BI_CONT to the ECC 6.0 IDES.

After doing so, some data would have to be loaded (ECC 6.0 -> BI). What souce system would one use in this case?

TIA

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello again,

I think I have found an answer to my own question(?)

For the IDES setup, the logical system one could load from would be T90CLNT090 (in which case I changed it - using BDLS - to <SID>CLNT800) - since 000 is to be the reference client while 800 is the one you actually work in.

Also, I could do a client copy, create another logical system referencing that client, I could use that as a source system too - right?

TIA

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Casey Harris, can you check your thread (question) name? Check also your thirs 3 question ...

Are is the answered? You ask and ask questions per one thread, it's not good. You post on NW forum, if you have problem with BW configuration post on BW forum -->

/community [original link is broken]

You can use any client as source and any client as BI master client ...

BW client you can check and change in se16 --> table RSADMINA , field BWMANDT.

Regards.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

OK, it makes sense now - thanks for the hints. Gave you the points ...