Grouping in Time Management

[Former Member]

Hi Gurus,

I have trouble understanding the groupings in Time management.Could some one help me with any documentation or explanation?

Thanks,

Anjali

Edited by: Anjali N on Dec 2, 2008 3:15 PM

[Former Member]

Hi Venkat,

Thanks, for helping me understand grouping, your answers were really helpful.

Anjali

[Former Member]

Hi Venkat,

Thank you, for your response.Your explanation for PSG for Time recording was very helpful. Could you explain what does ESG for time Quota diretly effect? is it counting class? would be really helpful if you give the table numbers.

Thanks,

Anjali

Edited by: Anjali N on Dec 3, 2008 5:02 PM

[former_member207885]

An employee subgroup grouping for time quota types is a grouping of employee subgroups for which the same absence and attendance quota types are defined.

Eg:If you ahve different quotas for Salaried and Hourly Employees then you can group them in the table V_503_E.

Like Group 1 is for salaried and 2 for hourly and so on.

When you are configuring Abs/Att Quotas you would need to specify PSG and ESG for each quota

[former_member1331311]

hi Venkat

how we can apply two different counting rules to one attendence types. If we group two different groupings for time quotas types and then because of taht we need to create two different coutning rules for each absences. Now when we assign absence type to acounting rule , then one one entry is allowed. Can you confirm this.

[Former Member]

Hi Anjali,

In Time management Personnel Sub Areas and employee Sub Group Grouping is used to define DWS WSR, Quotas Etc...

Personnel Sub Arrea Grouping

Holiday Calendar Assignment To Personnel Subarea

PSA Grouping for

Absences /Attendances

Availability And Subsitution

Time Quotas

Absence Counting

Time Recording

Overtime

Daily Work Schedule

Work Schedule Rule

Employee Sub Group Grouping

Work Schedules

Time Quotas

Warm Regards,

Kapil Kaushal

[Former Member]

Hi Dilek,

Thank you, for the quick response.Those links were really helpful.I am still having some issues with understanding why these two groupings are done in Time management.

PSA grouping for time recording and Quota type.

Could you please explain the significance of these grouping in Time Management?

Thanks,

Anjali

[former_member207885]

Anjali,

PSG for Time Recording is used for 4 tables (mainly related to Time Evaluation).

A grouping of personnel subareas for time recording is a division of personnel subareas for which the same time types(T555A), time transfer specifications(V_T559P), and message types(T555E) are defined.

This group is used for Time quota generation rules too.This group is defined in the following path

Time management-->TE >TE Settings>Set PSG for Time Recording.

As I said before this is used for Time Evaluation purpose.This will usually maintained as 01.

PSG for quota groupings is diffenrent and which is used if there are diffenrent quotas for different Per.Area/P.sub area combinations.

Hope this helps.

Thanks

Venkat

[Former Member]

Hi Anjali,

Check these out :

http://www.sapmaterial.com/HRTMsec4.html

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_40b/helpdata/en/8a/98468146c411d189470000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

http://www.sap-help.info/sap-hr-pa.html

Regards,

Dilek

[Former Member]

Kindly update your links.

Thanks in advance.

Your reply will be appreciated.

Best Regards,

Ahmed Gamal El-Din