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BOM Phantom Item

Former Member
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Hello All,

I'm looking for the solution or the guidance from you.

I've a BOM for the FG material which will have a Raw material,SFG and Returnable Packaging Material.When We process this BOM to make the Production all the materials which are in this BOM gets consumed,all the materials stocks are getting reduced.

Then We ship the FG gods to the customer along with the RTP material.Now for the RTP material stocks are getting reduced by two time,one is at the BOM level and one is at the Sales/ship to the customer.As we dont want stocks to be reduced by two times.We want to acheive theat stocks should get reduced by only one time.

Is there any setting in the BOM or Material Master(MRP Views) level so that i can control the stocks being reduced by two times.

Thanks,

John B

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csaba_szommer
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Hi John,

I think the decision should be taken by you because you have more information on business requirements.

Generally, I would prefer the use of phantom assies because of you wouldn't take additional care of text items, you could handle mass changes (CS20) more easily, you could use CS15 (that is not possible for text items - of course you can create CS15-like query for text items too)

But your users have to take care that phantom packaging materials are used in BOMs. You also have to take care that no requirement will be generated for BOM-pahntom assies during MRP run - if it is returnable packaging this may not cause problem.

(Please also take care that if your BOM-phantom assies have BOM, the requirements will be valid for their components)

Regards,

Csaba

Former Member
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Hi Csaba,

User din't flag the checkbox of the Phantom tick in the Phantom assmbly BOM for teh PM,now while doin GR system is reducing the stocks.

Please tell me what can be done if user does the GR for the PO it should not reduce the stock for the Packaging Material in the PA BOM.

Thanks,

John B

csaba_szommer
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Hi,

Long term solution is to carry out the proper settings in the BOM for the phantom assy.

Short term solution: you can cancel the confirmation by CO13 and do it again. Your user has to take care of not posting the component (delet from component list) when he/she executes CO15 / CO11N.

W/o canceling the confirmation you can use MB1A + 262 + PrdOrd reference to reverse the wrong component posting and reset the stock level. But I would suggest to use the first option if possible.

Regards,

Csaba

Former Member
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Thanks Csaba for your quick response.

I would like to go for the first optiion that is Long term solution is to carry out the proper settings in the BOM for the phantom assy

Could you please tell me those proper settings what needs to be done?

We have a BOM under that we have PA BOM.And in PA BOM we have PM for which user dint flag the check box as phantom item, but he has flagged the check box for PA BOM.

I doubt because user has not flagged the check box for the PM as phantom item in PA BOM.that's why system is reducing the stock, am i right?

csaba_szommer
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Hi John,

Now, I understand that you have a phantom assy and you don't want the components under it to be backflushed.

1. You can set the bakcklush of the components accordigly (you can set the backflush indicator in material master), or

2. You have to set the phantom assy checkbox for the all the phantom assy's components (that you don't want to consume).

If you check an item as phantom assy it won't mean that the components under it won't be backflushed as well.

(You have the option to use the components as text items, document items under the phantom assy).

Regards,

Csaba

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Hi Csaba,

If i tick the check box Engineering/Design in the BOM then what would happen to my case.

Thanks,

John B

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csaba_szommer
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Hi,

My suggestions:

- you can remove the RTP material from BOM and mention it only e.g. in engineering (and not in production) BOM, or remove from all BOM completely

- you can handle it as text item in the BOM

- you can handle it as phantom assy (you can set it as phantom assy in the BOM, not in material master)

- (you can solve this by removing the backflush indicator- I'm not sure this will help, because other master data settings, e.g. WC, can override this)

Regards

Csaba

Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Nov 7, 2008 2:45 PM

Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Nov 7, 2008 2:45 PM

Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Nov 7, 2008 2:46 PM

Former Member
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Hi Csaba,

Thanks for the reply,the option 2 or 3 looks good to me.

1.you can remove the RTP material from BOM

2.you can handle it as text item in the BOM

3.you can handle it as phantom assy (you can set it as phantom assy in the BOM, not in material master)

4.(you can solve this by removing the backflush indicator- I'm not sure this will help, because other master data settings, e.g. WC, can override this)

Could you please give me some detail steps to do for the option 2 and 3 or some documents for those options.

Thanks,

John B

csaba_szommer
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Hi John,

2. text item > in CS02 you can choose item category "text" > and type the material no. manually. In this case SAP interprets it as text and not material (~remark). (You can also create document item for it)

3. In CS02 select the item > menu > Goto > Item > on MRP tab (section) you canset "phantom assy" special procurement type, your item will behave like a phantom assy - this behaviour is restricted only to this BOM. No requirement will be generated for it trough the BOM, no backflushing will take place.

Regards,

Csaba

Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Nov 7, 2008 3:07 PM

Former Member
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Hi Csaba,

Let me go back to the user and confirm with them.

Thanks,

John B

Former Member
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Hi Csaba

Which way would you recommend from the below.

2. text item > in CS02 you can choose item category "text" > and type the material no. manually. In this case SAP interprets it as text and not material (~remark). (You can also create document item for it)

3. In CS02 select the item > menu > Goto > Item > on MRP tab (section) you canset "phantom assy" special procurement type, your item will behave like a phantom assy - this behaviour is restricted only to this BOM. No requirement will be generated for it trough the BOM, no backflushing will take place.

Thanks,

John

Edited by: John Boeckle on Nov 10, 2008 3:32 PM