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Beware and Wary of Fake Training

This came to my attention today. It is a warning to all those "dealing" with pirated training materials and unauthorized certification contents. See how some authorities are dealing with this[ illegal activity.|http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1199690&pageid=0] and take care to avoid

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  • Posted on Jan 13, 2009 at 07:52 AM

    In Bangalore, only Siemens Information Systems on MG Road and Genovate Solutions India Pvt Ltd at Kormangala are authorised to impart SAP training.

    Any idea :

    How to identify whether SAP training centers are authorized or not as most of them claim to be authorized.

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    Posted on Jan 28, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    Yes, as a matter of fact, here in Asia, we have also discovered that some training centers have offered 'so call' SAP training. Close scrutiny revealed that the course materials are out-dated, there are no server for exercises and the materials are based on bootlegged training and project materials from yester-years. For a list of Asian based authorized training center, you can click http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/centres/partners.epx - Abdy (Monsoon Academy)

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    Posted on Mar 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Imparting the right knowledge, at the right time, anywhere can be realised by undergoing training through any SAP Education Partner. The Training can be either Instructor Led or by Online Training (E-learning).

    For a list of SAP training details across the globe, please visit the following link

    http://www.sap.com/services/education/index.epx

    There is a wealth of information here.

    Warm Regards

    Shaamel

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    • Hi Tom,

      Unfortunately, many of these institutes uses pirated SAP software. There must be very few firms following the SAP licensing agreement. The piracy is one of the saddest thing, but it is the reality. SAP might be selling their software for million pounds, but, in the market, for $10 dollars people are creating pirates SAP software. It is is unlikely / impossible for SAP stop this piracy, though it is the need of the hour.

      SAP says that it is copyrighted materials and should not be distributed freely. Mostly, if I see, these words are for only text week. If I go to google, you name any SAP Certification material, freely available on the google to download. Unfortunately, some of the people are selling this SAP Certification materials, illegally. These people are minting money from the innocent people. They have not put one percent effort, but still they are enjoying the gains. SAP clearly must be knowing this, but, they cannot do anything. It is highly impossible to restrict these types of fraudsters. They will always find the loopholes in the system. I am surprised some of them are selling materials, which are very new and for peculiar SAP course. Usually, these type of courses are not even available in Authorised Training Centers. That means, the culprits must be within SAP or in some authorised institutes. If that is the case, SAP should restrict the use of these materials to their employees. (may be in display mode). My question is, otherwise, how these materials are being came from SAP to the fraudsters? Probably, SAP should find the root cause of this piracy problem.

      Best Regards,

      Ravi

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    Posted on May 20, 2009 at 01:11 PM

    Hi,

    How I will identify is that SAP training centers are authorized or not as most of them claim to be authorized?

    http://www.b1academy.co.uk/aboutus.html

    B1 Academy

    ???

    Thank you!

    Regards,

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    • Former Member

      First, you need to find out if there are ANY authorized providers in your region. The process doesn't work consistently, but it's worth a shot.

      Go to www.sap.com. Make sure the country on the very top is the country in which you are interested. (For the sake of example, choose Colombia.) On the next page, click Services. Should be a box slightly to the left of center along the bottom. If you see something that says education, resist the temptation to click it for now! Now, on the left you should see a menu that says SAP Education, and under that a link that says Education Parnters. These are the only Authorized Education Partners in the country! Now for the confusing part.

      Not every country has Authorized Education Partners. SAP handles it's own training in most of North America and Europe. If you follow the above instructions and you do NOT see an Authorized Education Partners link (which you won't if you're checking for UK), then I recommend calling the SAP Education Center for your region and confirming that by phone. If you want authorized training in a country in which SAP handles the training, you must go through SAP itself. SAP has many options for training, both in person and on-line, so it shouldn't be that much of a hardship, hopefully.

      In these same regions, though, it is not necessary to attend authorized training in order to sit for an exam, so you are free to learn from books and trial versions of the software on your own and then sign up for the exam. (I've written about this in a few blogs, check here for a list of blogs you might find helpful if you're trying to learn about SAP).

      The confusion comes in because SAP does not provide direct training in most parts of Asia Pacific and Central/South America/Africa. In those regions you MUST go through an Authorized Training Partner in order to sit for an exam unless you want to jump through some pretty significant hoops (2 complete, verified, go lives plus sponsorship from an authorized partner or SAP customer). In those countries, you can often find a list of authorized partners if you dig around hard enough. It would be great if those lists were easier to find. Here are the lists for Asia Pacific, Brazil, and Mexico).

      Hope this helps!

      Best regards,

      --Tom

  • Posted on Mar 17, 2010 at 10:27 AM

    Hi all

    I am working on SAP since the last 8 months as a ABAP developer .. i went to the authorised center in Hyderabad . I.e. SIEMENS

    there i was told that if i don't have implementation experience i won't be able to give the Certification exam .. Is that true ?

    if true Is there any way by which i can give the Certification exam without attending the course ? My constraints being that i work full time and so will not be able to attend the course ...

    Also i was told that i can try giving SAP-BI certification exam after attending the course

    How relevant is it ?

    And

    Which one should i prefer if i can give only one of these ..

    Basic ABAP or BI ?

    Please help

    Regards

    Manthan.

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      Manthan,

      Please check the Blogs for folks interested in Certification or just in learning SAP functionality section of the SAP Career Blog Links blog for more detailed information, but the short answer is that in India, you have to have 2 years of verified experience plus sponsorship from an SAP customer or authorized partner to sit the exam. If you can travel, you could go to a country that does not have this requirement (United States, United Kingdom, or Australia, for example) and sit for the exam there just by signing up. If you are an ABAPer, then you should sit for the ABAP exam. Taking a BI class and getting BI certification won't help you at all in your ABAP career.

      Hope this helps!

      Best regards,

      --Tom

  • Posted on Apr 01, 2010 at 08:08 AM

    Hi,

    Can anybody let me know about SAP professional certification. I have already done certification in FICO version 4.7 online?

    Thanks

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    Posted on Apr 21, 2010 at 09:44 AM

    Wot a joke ???

    Even SAP RM and Authorised Centers of India are busy in looting and doesn't reconize our training of SAP Authorised Center !!!

    Then who are the real training providers???

    When the new modules are coming then why not reconizing of old modules study??

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    Posted on Jul 08, 2010 at 01:34 PM

    Hi,

    I went to NIIT Bangalore training centre (Opposite to Forum Mall).They are saying that they are SAP educational partners.They cliamed same fee as anybody else for online ABAP training.

    I heard about Yash technologies also.Please tell me whether these are geniune or not.

    Regards

    Ravindranath CH

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    Posted on Oct 26, 2010 at 06:17 PM

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  • Posted on Jan 20, 2011 at 03:27 AM

    Hi,

    What about the low standards at SAP Authorized Training Centers? SAP focuses so much on fake training center and I totally agree they are bad for everyone.

    But has anyone looked at the Standards at SAP Authorized Training Centers. I am currently doing ABAP Class TAW10 at NIIT Mumbai Center (SAP Authorized Training Partner) and everyday we have to spend 2-3 hours in getting the infrastruture set up.

    At time there is no Internet Connectivity, some time Screen Sharing with the Trainer does not works - there is no support personnel in the center and center has to call some one from outside everytime.

    When we complain to people managing the center - they say sorry and tell us they are trying to fix it.

    who is losing here? the Students who have paid the fees and are losing time and money. Center has made it's money and students suffer.

    Ankur

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