SNP Planning for BOM components which has MRP type PD

[Former Member]

Folks

Requirement is to run SNP heuristic for a material which has BOM.However, not all components have MRP type as X0.

Ex:

Parent Material P1 has MRP Type X0

P1 has three components C1, C2, & C3 which has MRP Type X0, PD, X0 respectively.

CIF is configured to have materials with MRP Type X0. So only P1, C1, C3 materials will exist in APO product master.

now when SNP heuristic is run, it will generate dependent demand for components C1, C3. As component C2 will not be in APO product master, does dependent demand gets generated for this component C2 when SNP heuristic is run ?

Whatu2019s the standard approach ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

My first impression is when you dont have the material (C2) in APO then there is no question of having a dependant demand for the non existing matreial in APO

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Yes, you are right Sai. If the material is not in APO, there wouldn't be any dependent demand generated for that material as well

But what I am trying to know is the different ways of planning that can be adopted/followed for the component (C2) planning, beacuse goal is to do the planning for component C2 in MRP

As C2 - MRP type is PD, and C2 is a component of P1 which is planned in APO, whats the best way to generate dependent demand for C2 and do the procurement planning ?

If C2 is Ciffed to APO, dependent demand might be generated from SNP. Can this dep demand be passed to R3 and do the MRP planning ?

Further our CIF is configured to transfer all the materials with MRP type as X0. Now, question is how can I accomplish the transfer of components/materials with MRP type PD into APO without changing CIF config? Say, if I include MRP type PD in CIF, all other stand alone materials which are not relevant in APO planning might also be trnasferred to APO, which we want to avoid.

so any ideas on hwo to deal this kind of situation ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I think you can try creating a new IM for C2 with PD and send it to APO or you can even try changing the type to X1 and change the procurement type to P in APO. whatever be the process C2 should exist in APO otherwise I believe you cannot even CIF the PPM for FERT as the BOM components contain C2 and if it does not exist in APO it fails in CIF Queue.

I feel first try with MRP type X1 as it would be easier to add this MRP type in IM and also there wont be many materials with that type. It also avoids you to create a new IM

Edited by: sai balakavi on Oct 17, 2008 1:04 AM

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks for the info.

Is MRP type X1 a custom or standard ?. I couldnt find it in our system.

Whats the corresponding procurement type in R3 for Procurement type "P" in APO ? Should this be maintained in APO manually ? As stock shortfalls are replenished by the OLTP system for Procurement type "P" , is it done manually or through MRP planning ?

Say if Component C2 of MRP type PD exists in APO, does SNP generate the dependent demand as well as planned orders/purch req for this ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I am not too sure on the MRP type but I was refering to MRP Type "External Planning with MRP". Yes you need to maintain "P" in APO manually. I believe system should generate dependant demand in APO for PD but it will not plan in APO

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I believe, there might be many industry scenarios where a BOM exists and not all the components of the BOM are critical components that needs to be planned in APO.

For ex, there might be ND items such as nuts and bolts and PD items such as tyres and X0 items such as engine and chasis. so doesn't the PPM gets transferred to APO if all the BOM components does NOT exist in APO ?

Further, assuming that all PD, ND, X0 items exist in APO, and as SNP standard config plans only for X0 materials, can the dependent demand created for PD materials be passed back to R3 through CIF and planned through MRP?

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sai & Avalanche and other folks ....

Any other insighs and ideas on how to plan this kind of scenario.

Does Ciffing of PPM mandates that all the BOM components should exist in APO ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Yogi,

It is not mandatory to CIF all BOM compenent in APO.

If header material MRP type is X0 and component material MRP type is PD and not transferred to APO , R/3 MRP run will explode BOM for header material and created dependent requirement for PD component in R/3.

And generate receipt element ( planned order or Purcahse order) for the PD componen in R/3.

Hope it will help you.

Manish

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Mansih, thanks for the quick reply.

As header material MRP type is X0, why would MRP pick/consider this material in the first instance to further explode the components? I dont thik this is a viable option or I might be getting it wrong

ANy other alternatives ?

Edited by: Yogi on Oct 17, 2008 6:43 PM

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

X0 allows the BOM dependent demand for a parent material planned in APO to be exploded that and lower-level non-APO components to be planned during the R/3 or ECC planning run. These other components would need to use a non-X0 MRP Type like PD.

MRP Type X0 W/O MRP, with BOM Explosion

MRP procedure X Without MRP, with BOM explosion

you need to run MRP for Single-Item, Multilevel tcode MD02 .

Single-Item, Multilevel will explode the BOM of the header material and create a procurement proposal for the component materials.

Also make sure for header material on MRP 4 tab field MRP dep.requirements is blank ( Materials for dependent requirements are planned) .

Manish

Edited by: Manish Kumar Rathi on Oct 17, 2008 1:17 PM

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

So what u r saying is :

1. MRP type X0 for a header material (which has a BOM) will be planned in APO

2. BOM explosion in APO will create dependent demand for components with MRP Type PD

3. Further, component materials (with MRP Type PD, whose dependent demand was geneated in APO and CIffed back to R3) will be planned in R3 during MRP run .

Did I get this correctly ? Please correct if I am envisioning it wrongly

So, for scenario 2 to happen - components with MRP Type PD should also exist in APO right ?

whats MRP procedure? are u referring to MRP type or is this something different ?

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Yogi,

1. MRP type X0 for a header material (which has a BOM) will be planned in APO

Yes

2. BOM explosion in APO will create dependent demand for components with MRP Type PD .

No .Component which you wants to planned in R/3 should not be transferred to APO at all and dependent requirement will be generated in R/3 during multilevel MRP run . ( as BOM will be exploded during MRP run in R/3 for MRP type X0)

3. Further, component materials (with MRP Type PD, whose dependent demand was geneated in APO and CIffed back to R3) will be planned in R3 during MRP run .

No , it is not linked to APO at all.

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks again for looking into this.

As you mentioned earlier and as per the X0 description it says "X0 - W/O MRP, with BOM Explosion". However, the phrase "with BOM Explosion" seems to be misleading or rather unclear to me as from my prior experiences I never expected MRP run to explode BOM for a header item whose MRP type is X0.

So basically what u r saying is that:

1. MD02 will explode the BOM for header item whose MRP type is X0.

2. If so, does the BOM explosion create Dependent demand for all those components

a. which has MRP type X0.

b. which has MRP type PD.

3. Does MD02 explode BOM ONLY or does it generate the procurement/production orders as well ?

4. Does only MD02 satisfy this requirement and NOT MD03,MD43, MD50, MD51 ??

Thanks

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I mean W/O MRP, with BOM Explosion( Without MRP, with BOM explosion)

You can ccheck IMG setting in R/3 for MRP type or go to table V438A in Sm30.

1. MD02 will explode the BOM for header item whose MRP type is X0.

Yes

2. If so, does the BOM explosion create Dependent demand for all those components

a. which has MRP type X0.

No, it is planned in APO but component of it if any.

b. which has MRP type PD.

yes

3. Does MD02 explode BOM ONLY or does it generate the procurement/production orders as well ?

It will generate procurement proposal also.

4. Does only MD02 satisfy this requirement and NOT MD03,MD43, MD50, MD51 ??

MD03 will not .

MD42 - Single-Item, Single-Level , will not .

MD43 - Single-Item, Interactive - Not sure

MD50 - Single-Item, Sales Order - Not sure

MD51 - Single-Item, Project - Not sure

Hope it will further help you.

Manish

[nitin_thatte · Accepted solution]

Hi all,

I think we have confused Yogi completely. I am sticking to original scenario that C1 & C3 are X0 and are available in APO and C2 is PD so not available in APO.

Taking his example, The header material is X0 and is planned in APO. If he runs multilevel heuristic, even C1 & C3 will get planned. There is no question of C2 getting planned.

The dependent demands as such do not get transferred to R/3 fom APO. But when you transfer planned order for header material to R/3 the BOM gets exploded in R/3 and dependent demands for C1, C2 & C3 are created in R/3 itself. Thin is the meaning of MRP type X0 without MRP & with BOM explosion.

Similarly Planned orders /PRs for C1 & C3 will also be transferred from APO to R/3.

C2 which is not planned in APO has now got a dependent demand created due to explosion of BOM of Header material. R/3 MRP run can then plan for dependent demands of C2.

It is imperative that planned orders of header material should be transferred to R/3 before taking MRP run in R/3.

Hope this will clarify the issue.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Experts,

Despite being an old thread, it helped me to understand the intricacy of this particular transaction.

However I got the following message when I CIF a material and Plant.

"No location 2300 exists for mapping entry 2300 of cat. 1001 BSG BSG I"

I tried to CIF just Plant 2300. Even then I get this error message.

Deleted outbound Queue in ECC and tried CIF again, could not succeed .

Verified the settings for BSG in APO for target system (ECC). Looks fine.

Maintained distribution definition in ECC SPRO

verified that both tables /SAPAPO/LOCMAP and /SAPAPO/LOC bear the same entries wrt plant 2300 with type 1001

Removed inconsistencies by running program RAPOKZFX

But still cd not get rid of the error (Message LOC077 if CIF with material and LOC007 when tried to CIF Plant alone).

Any thoughts where should I verify or what more should I look for in queue?.

Thanks in advance for help.

Parvathy