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Fund Center not getting derived during F110

Apr 16 at 09:34 AM

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Hi All,

I am getting one error: No funds center entered/derived in item 00003 (HB02/61000202/)

Cost center is assigned in the Cost Element and the assignment between Cost Center and Fund Center is also done.

Also, when I am posting to this account manually through FB01, the commitment item, cost center and fund center get populated automatically. So, the fund center derivation works fine for manual posting but not for automatic posting through F110.

Please suggest, what could be the reason for this.





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Tammy Powlas
Apr 16 at 09:35 AM
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Hi - Please activate the trace in the FMDERIVE and then run F110 to see what accounts are not being derived; my guess is the balance sheet accounts may not have the commitment item on them.

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Hi Tammy,

Thank you for your answer.

I activated the trace in FMDERIVE and ran F110. But it still doesn't work.

Also, I have checked the Balance sheet account and the commitment item is assigned in the GL master.

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F110 won't trigger a trace in FMDERIVE, as payment run process is launched in background

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Hi Eli,

Can you please suggest, what could be the issue, if the fund center is getting picked up correctly in manual posting through FB01 but not getting picked in F110 posting?

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Saurabh Bhardwaj

I would turn on the FMDERIVE trace and use the single payment transaction F-53 - https://it.toolbox.com/question/why-use-f-53-when-i-can-pay-through-f110-instead-050211

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Thank you for your answer.

There is one more point which I would like highlight.

The invoice for which I want to make payment is as below:

Vendor Dr

COGS Account Cr

For testing purpose, I tried to post with expense account and the derivation for Fund Center is working fine.

So, I suspect, this might be because of COGS account.

To my understanding, COGS should come from Logistic side.

Please let me know, if I am missing out any point.

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Eli Klovski
Apr 18 at 12:03 PM
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Hi,

You have to revise your derivation strategy for fund centre and make sure that it will be derived for the document generated via F110. In a way, it could be simulated manually, but not with 100% accuracy. So, it's more about an analysis... How do your derive your fund centre?

Regards,

Eli

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Hi Eli,

I am deriving fund center from the Cost Center and the assignment between the fund center and Cost Center is fine in FMDERIVE.

I think the derivation logic is fine (as I have tried to post an invoice with expense account and it works fine) and the issue is with the COGS account.

Do we any possible scenarios in which we directly post COGS against vendor using FB60?

To my understanding, COGS is triggered only through Logistics. Please correct me, if I am wrong?

Regards

Saurabh

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Saurabh Bhardwaj

Cost centre? Make sure, that during payment run you are having this cost centre. On what line the error comes? If it's on the vendor, then it would be definitely without cost centre. Your COGS account, I guess, is a balance sheet account; so, you will have problem also there. You have to re-think your FM objects derivation strategy. Also, keep in mind, that payment document (value '57') normally inherits FM assignment from the source (value '54'), unless you changed something in the logic or force some other FM objects.

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ok. I'll explain the issue.

A Vendor Invoice is created in March. The posting was as follows:

COGS Dr

Vendor Cr

COGS is a P& L account.

Now, when I am trying to clear this entry through F110, I get an error the below error:

No Fund Center entered/ derived in item 003 (Company code/Forex gain/loss account). So, the error is in third line.

Forex gain/loss comes into picture because this invoice was posted in foreign currency and since it is getting cleared in April, the gain/loss difference is getting posted to Forex gain/loss account.

I have tried replicating the same scenario in test system but instead of COGS account, I am debiting Expense account (which is a normal scenario). I see that Fund Center is getting picked correctly and the document is posted successfully. So, I assume, derivation strategy for forex gain/loss account is correct.

I wanted to understand, in what possible scenarios is it normal to debit the COGS while posting a vendor invoice?

Please suggest.

Regards

Saurabh

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Saurabh Bhardwaj

If the message is coming for FOREX account, you have to provide the relevant rule, which would derive relevant FM object. You don't actually have an issue here. If a posting creates FOREX difference, you have to provide the relevant data to make the posting available.

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Hi Eli,

Thank you

So, you mean to say that the derivation for Forex account in FMDERIVE might not be correct?

Can I please ask how the Fund Center is derived correctly when I post invoice with expense account?

Regards

Saurabh

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