Purchase requisition is not create in SNP for Sub contract

[Former Member]

Dear All,

I setting up the sub contracting in APO SNP, this is the list of what I have done

Location 0000142477 Location type 1011 Vendor as CIF from R3, this is a sub contract location for me

Location AU20 Location type 1001 production as CIF from R3, this is my Plant

Created Product 52864094, for both Location and procurement type F (Special Procurement 30 in R3)

PPM for 52864094, CIF up from R3 as type P and Generate SNP PPM, Type S

Transportation lane Start loc 0000142477, to Destination Au20 with the Sub contracting purchase Info record

All the raw material from the AU20 to 0000142477

Seem pretty much all my Master data are completed

My problem is that in the Planning book 9ASNPSBC, material 52864094 in location AU20 I have demand, I execute the Multilevel heuristic, which in Theory, it should create the Purchase requisition in AU20, type subcontract and then some kind of plan production in 0000142477, but actually Nothing Happen, no Purchase req suggest for Both location

Vice versa, If I execute Heuristic run for this prodduct in AU20 form PP/DS, I got Correctly Purchase req in both locations,

Do I missing something in SNP ???

Could you guys give me a hint on this

Thanks and best regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

I know this discussion thread is very old but I am having the exact same issue where subcontracting distribution receipts will not be generated by the heuristics but if created manually everything works fine.  I have implemented OSS notes 1489549, 1830426, 1831745, and 1971144 and the heuristics job is still not generating PR's.  Can someone tell me if there was resolution to the above issue?  Thank you.

[former_member187488]

Hello,

I suspect the source of supply (subcontracting t-lane) is not picked during heuristic run.
There're several places where source of supplies are found and filtered during heuristic.

1) FM /SAPAPO/SOS_FIND

2) FM /SAPAPO/MSDP_SNPHEU_DRP_MATLOC -> PERFORM "perform drp_quota"

3) FM /SAPAPO/MSDP_SNPHEU_DRP_MATLOC -> FORM drp_replenish_calc ->
PERFORM get_valid_sos

You may check the above first.

Best Regards,
Ada

[Former Member]

As such you don't require PPM for generating PR.

PR may not get generated if

1 Product does not exist at subcon location & assigned to model

2 There is no means of transport in T-lane

3. There are two transportation lanes for the product (with destination as parent plant) but there is no quota arrangement maintained. Hence system does not understand which one to select. You may have created a manual transportation lane and also by CIFing Pur info record. If this is so delete the manual entry.

Hope you get the solution

Nitin

[Former Member]

Oops

You also have to maintain some timing in the routing. CIF the workcentre before CIFIng PPM.

You have to generate SNP PPM from PPDS PPM.

Cheers

Nitin

[Former Member]

You have to maintain routing for production version in R/3

The workcentre is maintained at plant.

Few more things which may be missed.

Have you maintained the subcontract product at sub con location and assigned it to model? This cannot be done in R/3. If product is not maintained at subcon location it will not create PPM and PR.

Have you maintained means of transport in the T lane created from Pur Info Record?

Regards. Incidently my name is Nitin

[Former Member]

I worked with subcontract scenario in my previous project and had to do the following

1. Create Pur Info Record of subcontracting type on subcontractor.

2. Create the production version in R/3 for the material at the receiving plant.

3. Mention this production version in "Pruch Org Data 1" view in Pur Info Record. This field in on extreme right side of Control block on the screen.

4. CIF the purchase info record to APO. This will create transportation lane with reference to the Pur Info Record. You have to of course maintain means of transport.

5. CIF the PPM as type subcontracting PPM. After this you will see a PPM at subcontractor location (instead of plant) in APO.

(You don't have to maintain special procurement key in R/3)

With these setting if you run SNP heuristic at plant, you will get pur requisition on subcontractor location. In subcontract location you can see this as distribution demand. You run multilevel heuristic at subcontract location for Subcon FG. This will create PRs for raw materials (Plant to Sub con).

You can run these heuristic steps as network heuristic also.

Hope this solves your problem.

[Former Member]

Hello PPM Team,

I have followed the steps suggested by you for planning subcontracting material.

But I am not able to transfer PPM . It might happened that my production version does not have routing as its F/30. Can you pl. let me know if it is possible to create subcotracting PPM without assigning routing to production version.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Thanks

Rajesh

[Former Member]

Hi Rajesh,

I am not so sure that you can get away without routing for the sub contract PPM,

I am trying to do the same, without sucess, every time my CIF reporting that it is no routing,

So what I have to do is to do the DUMMY work center, put the dummy routing .

anyhow, Hope the real exert can comment on this

Cheers,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Hi Kittichai,

Something similiar kind of situation arised in my project also but it wasn't for SubCon Scenario.

The analogy of your problem Looks like:

"There is something wrong at SNP PPM" because when you are taking PP/DS Heuristic run (Means you are selecting PP/DS PPM) System is Creating PR.

In my case it has happend that SNP PPM Was not picking subsequent dependent materials inside.

For Verifying it, suggest you to go in /SAPAPO/SCC03 & on left side of screen in Overview tree, you will find one tab called "Functions" click there & after that select Products & it will show you BOM items below it if PPM is correctly maintained & if it's not showing you then some issue is there.

In that case would suggest you to delete SNP PPM & convert it once more from PP/DS PPM.

Hope it helps.

Regards,

Hardik

[Former Member]

Hi Manish and Hardik,

Thanks for your help, Still didn't work

In SNP01, The entire Horizon are selected, and I also Include the looking for the Take into Account product found in planning run,

even when I run online with SDP94 standard planning book 9ASNPSBC/SUBCONTRACTING, ,it also giving me nothing

For the SNP-PPM, the Tab Function/product list, I see all my BOM Item there, so hopefully No issue there

I am really have no idea what going wrong here

Thanks and Best regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Please check

1.SNP stock transfer horizon in Product Master, of SNP2 tab

2. PP Planning Procedure (It should be 2) in PPDS tab

3. Nothing shhould be selected inProduct Heuristic field

and also I suggest you to maually create an order in Interactive planning and check if the order is created.

[Former Member]

Hi Sai Balakavi

Thanks, All the parameters that you mentioned are corectly set in the product for both Locations

1.SNP stock transfer horizon in Product Master, of SNP2 tab= Blank

2. PP Planning Procedure (It should be 2) in PPDS tab = 2 and,

3. Nothing shhould be selected inProduct Heuristic field = Blank as well

Now what I get in the interactive plan is Purchase requisiton in Location Au20,

System Determine the source location as 0000142477, but problem is that there are nothing create in location 0000142477, No dependent requirement from Au20 pass to ,0000142477, Look like TP lane working in-completed, and it didn't seem to recofnized that TP lane is s asub contract nor any SNP-PPM

Thanks and best regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Hi Kittichai,

Plz confirm following,

1) Your T-lane is of "Sub Contracting" type.

2) "Aggregated Planning" Indicator is selected in T-Lane (Means Of Transport). It Decides that your T-lane is applicable for SNP Planning Run.

Hope it Helps you.

Regards,

Hardik

[Former Member]

Hi guys,

I think that I may found the cause of the problem, or at least if not, then the information might help triggr some hints.

In the transportation lane 0000142477 (Sub contract location)---> AU20 (plant)

If there is NO mean of transport, system giving me the Purchase requisition in AU20, pointing to 0000142447 as Source of supply, but not pass the dependent requirement to 0000142477

But if There is a mean of transport, then there are nothing created in both locations.

I believe this Transportation lane is the cause of problem, Could some one tell me what to do

Thanks,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Hi Hardik,

Confirmed that T lane is Sub Contract type, ( meaning that in the product Specific T Lane, I got the Sub Contract Tick and get Info record type sub contract in the external procurement)

Aggregration and details planning are also ticked in mean of transport,

I belive that all other Master data are correctly set up, becuase when I manually created the Purchase requisition in AU20 in the Planning book, i get all dependent deamnd pass to 000142477 and alos I get the Plan production on this sub con location

Problem is when it is come to the interactive run, planning book didn't give me any of the Purchase req

Thanks, and best regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Dear Kittichai,

Would Like to Know which T-lane is maintained as SubCon T-lane.

It should be Sub Contractor------->Plant T-lane. Not other way round.

I am not able to find any clues other than this even i Read some Help Docs for your issue but unable to find specific lead.

Just for clarification, Would like to suggest to use planning book 9ASNPSBCSpecially made for SubCon Scenario).

Would like to hear real issue from you once your problem resolved.

Hope it helps,

Regards,

Hardik

[Former Member]

Hi Hardik,

The sub contract T-Lane is from Sub Contract---> Plant.

I suspect that it is on the mean of transportation that play a role in this problem. in my testing it is look like this

1. if I Not put the resource in the Mean of transportation: - I will get the PR in Plant pointing to sub contract location as Source of supply, but the dependent demand no go over to sub contract location.

2. if i put the wrong resource type (let say handling resource instead of transport resource) I get noting al all in the interactive run

3. If i put the tranpsort resource in the Mean of transport, I get the error message SNP044 Cannot convert KG to S, but based on the OSS note, My system is way above the patch level of the note

Will test further, if you have any other Hints for me, will be very happy

Thanks, and Best regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Hi,

in our scenario it works without any resources in the means of transport. Did you check the SNP low level codes for your product?

Kind regards,

Christian

[Former Member]

Hi Christain.

Thanks,

I take out the resource fromMeans of transportation, Still didn't work

I did check the SNP low level, what I get is

Plan File entry PPDS SNP LowL

3 52864094 0000142477 0 2

1 52864094 AU20 0 1

3 52864094 AU20 3 < Sub Contract 0 1

My Only question is on the second line, is this line interrupt and make problem in the SNP run.?

Best Regards,

Kittichai

[Former Member]

Hello All,

Sorry to divert the issue..

I am also working on the sub contracting setting & not able to create PPM.

I have created the following in R3 & SCM

In R3

1. Mat A with Pr. type F & SPK 30 in plant 10

2. Sub Purch Info records for matl A & vendor B

3. Production version SC for matl A with BOM only

In SCM.

1. Matl A & locn 10 transfer from R3

2 Locn B crtd with type 1011 for vendor B

3. Tr. lane created with SUB contract typr from B toA trfr from R3

4. Matl A & its BOM item extended to Locn B

Can some let me know , what setting should I do in Integration module to transfer PPM from R3 to SCM , as I am getting error here when I select radio button Sub contracting PPM

Appreciate your help.

Thanks and regards

Rajesh

[Former Member]

what do you mean with:

3 52864094 AU20 3 < Sub Contract 0 1

Do you have 2 entries for AU20?

[Former Member]

Ooopsss.

I didn't realized that my screen print was corrupt,

Yes, I got 2 entries for Au20

Entry 1 Material, AU20, and Planning segment type 1

Entry 2 , Material, AU20, Planning segment type 3, ( 3 for subcontract)

Is this a poblem?

best regards,

Kittichai

Edited by: Kittichai Chuthaprutikorn on Sep 19, 2008 6:05 AM

[Former Member]

i don't really know if it is correct. In our system we have only one entry for each location and segment type is empty. May be the following note is relevant for you.

Note 871687 - Incorrect SNP low-level codes in subcontracting

best regards

Christian

[Former Member]

Hope in SNP01 you have selected entire planning horizon .

Network Heuristic

set the Take into account found components in planning run

Manish