Missing XSA-ADMIN app in XS Advanced on-premise upgrade installation

[Former Member]

Hello,

our customer recently requested the use of SAP Web IDE on one of our HANA SPS12 on premise systems, so I downloaded and installed xs advanced engine on the system, using mostly default installation parameters (Standard domain, port based routing, etc.). Since we have a multitenant system, the installation set up all the users and roles in systemDB. Our customer wants to use existing development objects from an existing tenant DB. As far as I understand, this has to be done via creation of logical databases. But in my xsa installation, apps for user management and xs administration are missing.

Is there a way to fix this? Or do I even need to reinstall the xs advanced engine? Any share of experience would be highly appreciated.

Thanks

Yannick

[k_gorin]

I think I figured it out. You don't need xsa-admin. You just go create new role collection in cockpit and get webide apps in there. Apparently this role collecion is missing for me after installation.

[former_member235482]

Can you elaborate?

[thomas_jung]

You installed just the XSA Runtime with no additional components? See step 8 of the installation guide:
https://help.sap.com/viewer/2c1988d620e04368aa4103bf26f17727/2.0.03/en-US/c84322dfbc7e49d4ac83f0c1d9...

If so the web-based administration tools are not included in the base runtime installation. With the basic runtime installation you only get the product installer, deployer, and audit logging applications. For anything else you have to add those MTARs/Components to the installation via this step or install them manually after the XSA runtime installation. I think most people just install them after the runtime installation. No reason to reinstall the XSA Runtime.

Also if you are using the HANA 2.0 SPS 03 version of XSA Runtime, then to perform the tenant DB mapping all you need is the XS command line tool. We added command line capabilities to perform the mapping and all the user role collection setup as well. Before SPS 03, then yes you either need the XSA Admin tool or the XSA Admin Cockpit to do these steps.

[Former Member]

This same situation seems to be part of the installation headaches regarding Hana 2.0 Express Edition with XS Advanced installation on a preconfigured VM.

HANA XSA distribution team needs to include ALL of the tools necessary to configure an XSA installation with the package. Not providing the tools to control the installation is akin to providing the developer with a 100,000 ton train moving at 65mph with no brakes said train carrying highly volatile and toxic chemicals headed into a major population center. Its only going to end in disaster. People may not die as a result of a failed installation but your customers who want to provide demonstrations of the product to management or to prospective employers or prospective clients will face an uphill struggle getting what should be a no brainer install up and running, thus giving you folks at SAP a bad reputation.

[michal_keidar]

uri.nizan - please take a look.

Thanks,
Michal.

[Former Member]

Thank you for your input Michal. What I am looking for is a way to use the HANA content store of my tenant database with SAP WEB IDE. Using cloud services like GIT is not an option for customer data. Also the main question I think is, why is there no xsa-admin app installed with my xs advanced installation, since it is mentioned in every documentation as the go-to administration tool and it seems to be mandatory to reach my configuration goals.