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Managing Ecotax condition in Purchase Order return

Hello I try to explain
I need to manage in PO price a surcharge for Ecotax, so I've defined a Z Surcharge condition, setting B-Delivery cost as Condition category (V_T685A-KNTYP).
It works fine and In accounting I can separate Ecotax costs from Goods Cost. The probelm occurs when I need to manage a PO Return, The vendor must credit to me both the Cost of Goods and the Ecotax surcherge too. Unfortunately the Z Surcharge condition can be only positive, because teh system doesn't permit Negative Delivery-Cost category (error 06-259 Negative Delivery costs not allowed).
Somebody can help to me to solve the issue.
Thanks in advance.
Claudio

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  • Feb 24 at 09:28 AM

    Dear Claudio Carrara,

    Can you explain it in detail, i would be more appreciated if you could share the screen shot as well.

    Best Regards

    Mohsin Abbasi

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  • Feb 26 at 09:13 AM

    Hello Monsin
    RAEE/DEEE Ecotax in some EU countries (i.e. Italy and France) is Surcharge you have to pay, when purchase som eelectronic items to cover the recycling costs of them when they'll teh End of Life. Basically we need to manage this cost separately from purchasing cost. Using a Z condition as showed we have solved this issue. The prolem is when you return the goods to teh Vendoe using a PO Return. As you can see in teh picture SAP consider always positive the surcharge (1), and if you force the amount negative by setting manually a minus sign (2), teh system issue this message. To solve the Issue I think, I should use a condtition type which work like this one, but permits to manage negative amounts in PO, or permit to adjust the value during MIRO Operation.
    Thanks for helpzrae.jpg

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  • Feb 26 at 02:12 PM

    Why was this configured as delivery costs if it is a tax?

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  • Feb 27 at 10:41 PM

    Hi Jurgen
    I'm sorry, is not a tax but just a contribution we need to pay to the Vendor, who he will transfer to a Consortium. For us is a cost, but it must be posted in a diffrent cost account than the Cost of goods.At the moment I've solved the issue posting teh amount during MIRO (credit note) as an unplanned cost, but I'll prefer manage it using a condition type. Unfortunately I did found any documentation regarding the right condition type to use. For normal invoices Delivery costs works fine, but for Return it desn't work. What do yuo think, What CT i shloud to use ?

    Thanks for help.
    Claudio

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  • Feb 28 at 12:51 PM

    You should just not have used the delivery costs condition category. SAP is checking on negative costs in function ME_CHECK_PRICING_RESULT

    if t_komv-kntyp = 'B'.
    if t_komv-kbetr < 0 or .....

    They only try to be logical.

    You got goods and had to pay the freight to a carrier and later you found out that the goods have a bad quality and you want to return the goods.

    Why should you then get the money back from your carrier? He has done his job and moved the goods to you. Contrary you have to pay him again to move the goods back to your vendor. Hence it is not logical to have negative delivery costs.

    Which means any other surcharge condition type with a condition category different that B should actually work.

    I actually wonder why this ECOTAX should not be part of your product costs, or do you get it reimbursed at some point of time?

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  • Mar 01 at 09:01 AM

    Hi Jurgen
    I've follow your advice and I've tried to set komv-kntyp = 'V'. Now I can force the surcharge as negative in my PO condition item.
    All is good during GR operation and teh accounting doceumnt created is right too, I've 2 different items for any different price element.
    Now the problem occurs during MIRO when I Post Credit note,only 1 price item appair (3), and so even I adjust manually the price by adding the negative surcharge and post the document, i get a wrong accountig documentm, beacuse the account 20300700-Invoice to be receive (4) is not fully cleared (376+1,60 during GR but only 376 during IR), and MR11 trasaction will find 1,60 to clear.
    Any suggestion regarding the komv-kntyp to use to solve this issue.
    Thanks again for you help.
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  • Mar 07 at 11:42 AM

    Any help, please ?

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