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can any body tell me the differences between SAP XI and oracle fusion ASAP.

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    Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 06:24 AM

    Hi,

    SAP XI is the middleware tool to connect any system to any system, but oracle fusion is the ERP like SAP.

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    Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 06:30 AM

    Oracle Fusion is not considered as a stable product yet in the market. So for integration of systems involving SAP systems, SAP XI is the best choice. If ur landscape has no SAP system at all ,then u may think abt the facilities provided by Fusion. But if multiple SAP instances r present, then XI would be a better choice.

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    chandra

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    Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 06:36 AM

    HI RADHIKA,

    Oracle fusion

    Oracle is using Oracle Fusion Middleware as the foundation for Oracle's next-generation applications, codenamed "Project Fusion." The use of standard technologies such as BPEL and Java will provide this next generation of applications with critical flexibility and management advantages.

    Oracle Fusion Middleware ensures that information gets handed off to the right people and the correct business applications accurately and efficiently even when data resides at many different places.

    Advantages

    Access management and security, BPEL Process Manager, Identity Management, Business Intelligence, Web services.

    Using the Business Process Execution Language (BPEL) standard, this component of the Oracle Fusion Middleware family ensures that you can develop, monitor, and improve processes over time with optimal portability and reuse potential.

    Oracle Fusion Middleware is modular (allows you to install, configure, and use only those services that you need) open, and extensible to work in a heterogeneous environment.

    Dis-Advantages

    An automated upgrade from one product to another is devilishly hard to provide by considering the customization of PeopleSoft that will have gone on out there.

    Unless Fusion has the same data model as PeopleSoft there may be a need for manual analysis, mapping and data integration work to get it right.

    Sap XI

    XI is well suited for connecting SAP systems with each other and with non-SAP. SAP XI provides an integrated workflow engine that allows defining adapters to non-XML protocols and mappings to convert data content from source to target format.

    XI comes handy particularly incase of SAP - Non SAP interfaces where you can import standard integration content. Also XI has got sophisticated open standard adapter framework which is very easy to implement and custom logic can be implemented using Adapter module programming.

    Advantages

    Monitoring is better than any other middleware product. It offers exhaustive monitoring features like message, performance, component monitoring etc, all of which can be used to track and rectify the errors. It follows a hub and spoke model.

    When you need to integrate with an SAP system XI has an advantage in supporting various SAP components and so on.

    Process functionalities inside XI to modify content in the communication channel on own defined rules for business purposes.

    Mappings and adapters are good as comparable with any other middleware product.

    Synchronous & Asynchronous communication is possible.

    Dis-Advantages

    Web methods are particularly good if u have B2B kind of communication with their Trading Partners product.

    XI is lacking full-fledged Message Queue compared to other established Middleware products.

    It lacks in ability to process huge messages but SAP is working on that.

    It does not have a messaging layer exposed by APIs like IBM MQ-Series.

    It is not comparable to Tibco in terms of speed.

    SAP relies on other vendors except for a few adapters.

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    regards

    chandrakanth

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    Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 06:38 AM

    Dear Radhika Chikatimalla

    Both are Middlewares. As it is clear one belongs to SAP Netweaver and other belongs to Oracle. Oracle has acquired some companies like J.D Edwards, Siebel products. With support of these acquired companies it has built a competetion for SAP Netweaver XI Middleware.

    I hope you know that SAP will provide the support for 1 year and we can extend the service by upgrading or puchaseing the support from SAP. But if you look at the Oracle Fusion It say's clearly Lifetime Support and It does't force Customers to Upgrade the product. Customers can Upgrade when ever they require.

    Check the detials furthur at

    [http://www.oracle.com/applications/fusion.html]

    Regards

    Praveen

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  • Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:22 AM

    Hi,

    As far as my knowledge, Both of them are middlewares and i have worked into both of them. In fusion i worked less only 1-2 months so i not much familiar with its functionality much. But both of them are middlewares. The next thing is that, there is a increasing competetion between SAP PI and Oracle fusion in US market and they are competetor.

    Oracle Fusion

    Oracle Fusion Middleware is a preintegrated portfolio of customer-proven software that spans from portals and process managers to application infrastructure, developer tools, and business intelligence. As the industry's most comprehensive family of middleware, it enables your organization to increase its capacity for growth and change; improve insight into business operations; mitigate risk and drive compliance; and connect with customers, partners, and workers.

    Refer : http://www.oracle.com/products/middleware/index.html

    I don't think i should give the explanation about PI. If you want you can search it in SDN.

    Regards

    Aashish Sinha

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    Posted on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:18 AM

    HI

    SAP XI:

    XI is well suited for connecting SAP systems with each other and with non-SAP. SAP XI provides an integrated workflow engine that allows defining adapters to non-XML protocols and mappings to convert data content from source to target format.

    XI comes handy particularly incase of SAP - Non SAP interfaces where you can import standard integration content. Also XI has got sophisticated open standard adapter framework which is very easy to implement and custom logic can be implemented using Adapter module programming.

    Advantages

    u2022Monitoring is better than any other middleware product. It offers exhaustive monitoring features like message, performance, component monitoring etc, all of which can be used to track and rectify the errors. It follows a hub and spoke model.

    u2022When you need to integrate with an SAP system XI has an advantage in supporting various SAP components and so on.

    u2022Process functionalities inside XI to modify content in the communication channel on own defined rules for business purposes.

    u2022Mappings and adapters are good as comparable with any other middleware product.

    u2022Synchronous & Asynchronous communication is possible.

    Dis-Advantages

    u2022Web methods are particularly good if u have B2B kind of communication with their Trading Partners product.

    u2022XI is lacking full-fledged Message Queue compared to other established Middleware products.

    u2022It lacks in ability to process huge messages but SAP is working on that.

    u2022It does not have a messaging layer exposed by APIs like IBM MQ-Series.

    u2022It is not comparable to Tibco in terms of speed.

    u2022SAP relies on other vendors except for a few adapters.

    Oracle fusion:

    Oracle is using Oracle Fusion Middleware as the foundation for Oracle's next-generation applications, codenamed "Project Fusion." The use of standard technologies such as BPEL and Java will provide this next generation of applications with critical flexibility and management advantages.

    Oracle Fusion Middleware ensures that information gets handed off to the right people and the correct business applications---- even when data resides at many different places.

    Advantages:

    u2022Access management and security, BPEL Process Manager, Identity Management, Business Intelligence, Web services.

    u2022Using the Business Process Execution Language (BPEL) standard, this component of the Oracle Fusion Middleware family ensures that you can develop, monitor, and improve processes over time with optimal portability and reuse potential.

    u2022Oracle Fusion Middleware is modular (allows you to install, configure, and use only those services that you need) open, and extensible to work in a heterogeneous environment.

    Dis-Advantages:

    u2022An automated upgrade from one product to another is devilishly hard to provide by considering the customization of PeopleSoft that will have gone on out there.

    u2022Unless Fusion has the same data model as PeopleSoft there may be a need for manual analysis, mapping and data integration work to get it right.

    cheers

    reward points if found useful

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