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#ABAP_TRIAL - A list of questions I haven't seen answered yet...

Howdy folks,

Like many others, I am trying to install the SAP NetWeaver AS ABAP 7.51 SP02 package available from the SAP store.

I've been following the excellent guide written by Julie Plummer (Newbies Guide: Installing ABAP AS 751 SP02 on Linux) and things have gone fairly smoothly, except for a few hitches. Here are my questions:

1. When I start the Linux VM does the SAP server instance start automagically? Or do I need to manually start it? The Concise implementation guide suggests the server needs to be started and stopped manually.

2. Regarding the SAP GUI installer that comes bundled with the .RAR files; is it just a patch for an existing GUI installation, or is it supposed to install the entire GUI? I am running Windows 10 and this is a clean, brand new install. When I launch the GUI installer that came packaged with the ABAP AS server installation, I get the following message:

"Welcome to the SAP Front End patch wizard

This SAP Front End patch cannot be applied. Either the installed components are already on the same patchlevel or the components to be patched are not installed."

This leads me to believe the SAP GUI installer is just meant to patch an existing GUI installation. Is that correct?

3. This leads me to question 3. I have a personal user account / S-number and my understanding is this *cannot* be used to download the SAP GUI. In order to get download privileges to the SAP GUI, I need an S-number provisioned through an administrator who is an SAP customer. Is that correct, or is my personal S-number just not registered correctly?

I am genuinely confused about how end users are supposed to download the SAP GUI for Windows if it's only available to SAP customers. :(

4. In the Concise implementation guide, examples are given for starting and stopping the SAP instance

  • Switch to user npladm with default password: su npladm
  • Start the SAP system : startsap ALL

When I try this command, Xterm says that the command is not found. This suggests to me that there is something wrong with my SAP installation, but I got the requisite success messages when I finished the installation so I am a bit confused. Is that command not relevant to 7.51?

Thanks very much in advance!


PS - Hi Julie (if you're reading this)! Thank you so much for taking the time to write those guides, they are very helpful. :)

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  • Hi, OK, I wasn't sure. In this case, however, I'm asking people not to do that, because it is very hard to search through pages and pages of comments (we have about 80 A4 pages of comments on one of the blogs), so people end up posting the same questions over and over. Also, many questions are not ABAP version-specific, but the blogs are, so the same question can be posted on different blogs, making it hard for people to find.

    For that reason, I am begging people to make questions more discoverable (in future, not just for me right now) by using the #ABAP_Trial hashtag and posting a question. I am *hoping* this can be made a primary tag, which will speed things up considerably. If anyone wants to make sure I see their question, feel free to add a notify : Julie Plummer .

    I always process the questions first, the blog comments after.

    I am sorry, it's not ideal, but it's something I want to address with my manager next week.

    Thanks for getting involved, though - I hope that Dev. experience will slowly improve.

    Best wishes Julie.

  • I didn't even think about that! It's much easier to search questions than comments on a blog. I suppose look at the questions above would be a good answer to the comments as well.

    Yes, searching first is always good!


  • ;-). I honestly think most problems lie with the process, not the people. Hopefully, the process will improve over time.

    All the best, Julie.

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  • Feb 12, 2018 at 10:53 AM

    Hi Matt,

    First of all, I apologize for the delay: Since #ABAP_Trial is not a primary tag, I can't follow it (an issue I will try to resolve with the Community Team). In the meantime, I have actually been telling people to notify me : Julie Plummer (@ julie.plummer). Feel free to do that next time.


    1, 4: "When I start the Linux VM does the SAP server instance start automagically? Or do I need to manually start it? The Concise implementation guide suggests the server needs to be started and stopped manually. ["startsap ALL" doesn't work]."

    Sadly, no, automagic is not a feature. Yet. You need "startsap all" - lowercase. I don't think this indicates a problem with your installation. If this doesn't work, please let me know.

    That is why I point to the Concise Implementation guide at the end of the Newbies' Guide. (The next version of the Newbies' Guide will be a PDF, so it will contain all this information.).

    2,3: At present, that is correct: the SAP GUI for Windows install is a patch, not a full install. We are looking into this for 752, but I cannot promise anything. If a full version becomes available for 752 (or later), I will announce that when it arrives.

    In general, the issue of what is available without a (customer) S-user is vexed: I will be raising this with my manager and let you know.

    I will update this question as soon as I have further information.

    Thanks for your nice comments about the blog!

    Best wishes


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    • Hi Matt,

      First of all, you should be able to use SAP GUI for Java or SAP GUI for HTML ("Webgui") for any time you need a SAP GUI.

      I am meeting my manager next week. I apologize for the delay. I have been ill.

      Best wishes Julie.