default position

[Former Member]

hi everybody,

i have no org assignment for my workers. but they have positions and jobs.

i have assigned positions to the persons. unfortunately all worker positions are showing the default position (99999999). in the pa30 in the 0001 display.

what could be the reason? and how to solve this. can i change this position assignment.

reply plz. project is about to go live.

[Former Member]

i am closing this thread

[Former Member]

Hi,

I think the BDC is not delimiting dates of old posiitons for all those employees uploaded through BDC.

You can do one thing, normally in BDC SAP does not delimit the record once you upload for P-S. We need call another Transaction PP02 in BDC to delimit the old position.

If you do this definitly it will work for you.

Please try this.

Reward me if helps.

Thanks,

vasu.

[Former Member]

I checked my system and I was able to create a position without assigning it to an Org. unit.

Then I hired a person to that position and in IT0001 position ID was stored even if Org.unit field=00000000.

So I think that there should be way initial approach to be reached I mean there is no need for dummy Org.unit to be created.

Please see my settings in V_T77S0

PLOGI ADAYS

PLOGI APPNT

PLOGI APPRA 1

PLOGI BSPAY

PLOGI COSTD

PLOGI COSTI

PLOGI EVCCC 02

PLOGI EVCRE X

PLOGI EVEGC 02

PLOGI EVENB

PLOGI EVPAC 02

PLOGI HROFF

PLOGI ORGA X

PLOGI PDCON

PLOGI PLOGI 01

PLOGI PRELI 99999999

PLOGI PRELU

PLOGI QUALI 1 A032 Q

PLOGI SPLIT

PLOGI TEXTC

PLOGI TEXTD X

PLOGI TEXTO

PLOGI TEXTS X

PLOGI TIME

Please check your settings there in order first to eliminate this part.

Waiting for your answer.

Ani

[Former Member]

Hi thanx for extending ur help. i have bolded the differences of settings between u & me in v_t77s0

PLOGI ADAYS

PLOGI APPNT

PLOGI APPRA 0 yours is 1

PLOGI BSPAY X yours is no value

PLOGI COSTD

PLOGI COSTI

PLOGI EVCCC 02

PLOGI EVCRE X

PLOGI EVEGC 02

PLOGI EVENB

PLOGI EVPAC 02

PLOGI HROFF

PLOGI ORGA X

PLOGI PDCON

PLOGI PLOGI 01

PLOGI PRELI 99999999

PLOGI PRELU

PLOGI QUALI 1 A032 Q

PLOGI SPLIT

PLOGI TEXTC

PLOGI TEXTD mine is no value and yours is X

PLOGI TEXTO this is not existed in t77so

PLOGI TEXTS mine is no value and yours is X

PLOGI TIME

i think if u try u can solve my issue.

[Former Member]

hi,

Its coming from default positions i believe.

Check PLOGI PRELI in table V_T77S0.

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

what i have to check in that table

[Former Member]

Hi,

default positions.

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

yes, this 99999999 number is there. now what i have to do?

[Former Member]

hi,

you have positions in ORG stucture and you have assigned them to that position in PA

or have you uploaded these into OM.

regards

nalla

[Former Member]

Hi,

Default position is coming from this PLOGI settings.ie for no org assignment .

If you want to make ur positions.create position and attached to the org unit and pass this position.

Is the position field an edit field?

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

hi nalla & manoj thanx for responding and i need ur help

i have 290 workers positions. and for all these only one job.

i have maintained job to position relationship.

and i have assigned these positions to the persons in the org assignment via uploading BDC. and still my system is showing A008 relationship between these positions and persons.

but when i was seeing org assignment via pa30 the system is showing default position no. only for these workers positions.

i have no org unit for these worker positions.

what i have to do. help me and solve my issue

[Former Member]

i am a bit confused with your scenario.

what you are saying is you have 290 employees who have positions a nd for all the positions have only one job.

that is fine.

what you are saying is you donot have an orgunit then where are these positions to which you have assigned the job.

have you uploaded the positons and the holder in OM or PA?

regards

nalla

[Former Member]

hi,

why dont you attach this to organizational unit.It will solve your problem.

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

dear friend,

i have no org unit assignment for these 290 positions but S-C relation and S-P relation is also there.

when i uploaded the data via BDC system used to take automatically org unit as 00000000 and position and job is available.

[Former Member]

but my client don't want to show this worker positions in the org structutre.

[Former Member]

Hi saathi,

as i mentioned the position of org unit -00000000 is showing in the screen.create a dummy org unit for your requirement and attach this positions.

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

what u said is, u want me to create one org unit and assign these 290 positions to that org unit. yes.

if i do this how this will effect in the IT-0001. will it automatically change. bcoz currently system is showing position 99999999 to all these 290 workers positions.

clarify me.

[Former Member]

The positions you created will automatically impact on PA side as well.

[Former Member]

hi,

Even if you create positions,you give org unit -000000.So that means the org unit is zero and the position for org unit 0 is default(9999999),that comes from plogi.Check whether the position data stored properly in PA001.

For ur understanding,the data showing in the infotype 1 is from Organizational Management.

Thanks,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

dear friends,

i have already positions. again why should i create. as per ur advise i will create one org unit and i will try.

but why position is defaulted to 99999999 where as my a008 relationship is existed and showing correctly.

[Former Member]

hi,

the positions you created is attached to any org unit?

What i told is to create an org unit or attach your positions to any existing org unit.

And the relationship a008 is for person holding the position.You need to create

realationship A003 (Belongs to ).

Regards,

Manoj.

[Former Member]

i will do and get back to the thread. but promise me u will be helping me to solve this issue.

[Former Member]

ok

[Former Member]

hi manoj i have created one dummy org unit and i assigned these worker position to the org unit. and now in the pa30 IT-0001 is perfect.

but my client don't want to show these workers into org structure and how i have to convince him to permit to create one org unit for workers.

[Former Member]

manoj

as u said i created org unit and assigned one S-O and S-P and it was perfect in IT-0001. when i deleted S-O then also it was displaying the position in the IT-0001.

think about this and help me. as i have worked it is not necessary to give any relationship between O-S to maintain position in IT-0001.

what do u say?

[Former Member]

hi,

now try and delete the relationship between Oand S

see if the position is retained in PA30

regards

nalla

[Former Member]

saathi

I do not thin that differnces you have in T77S0 are reason for your issue. It is something else.

Didi you try RHINTE30?

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Transfer Data to Personnel Administration

In this step, you can use report RHINTE30 to update the "Organizational Assignment" infotype (0001) for the personnel number you have selected with the data generated in previous Organizational Management actions.

The report creates a batch input folder for the personnel number, which is updated from the "Organizational Assignment" infotype for the person. The organizational assignment determined in Organizational Management using organizational objects, positions, jobs, work centers and cost centers is transferred into infotype 0001.

You can find information on activating batch input updates in the description of the entry "PLOGI PRELU" in the step "Set Up Integration with Personnel Administration".

Requirements

To start the report, integration between Organizational Management and Personnel Administration must be active (see "Set Up Integration with Personnel Administration").

Activities

To update infotype 0001 for a personnel number or an area of personnel numbers, start report RHINTE30

Further notes

For additional information, see the online documentation on report RHINTE30 via System -> Services -> Reporting, Goto Menu entry -> Documentation

Please check

Ani

[Former Member]

usually when you upload org via BDCs, you need to run the integration utility programs HRINTE* to connect the link between what was created on the OM side to PA side.

[Former Member]

dear manoj, nalla, vasu, ani and padmini

i don't know whether it is right or wrong, i have solved this issue by running relationship between S-P. now its fine and i am tension free.

but one thing i want to no.

i know the importance of the RHINTE00, 10, 20 & 30. but to run those reports what are all inputs i have to give in which report i am confused.

if anybody could clarify me by sending screen shots (report wise) it wil be very helpful.

thanx a lot for extending ur helping.

meet u in the next thread