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May 17, 2008 at 04:28 PM

"Web Services - Ten years of a failed technology; where next?"

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I was browsing the VMS forum and found a VERY interesting opinion about SOA, ESB/ESR and that new technology in general. Although that comment is focused mainly on the operating system VMS, I think it's really worth reading - the author has some very nice (cynical/sarcastic) statements about the Web 2.0 and technologies in general.

The key points:

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And just when you think you've seen all this IT industry has to offer (us if

not so much the customers), you get slapped in the face by something truly

remarkable - "Middleware for Middleware"! Not only do they have to buy

middleware so that their disparate and/or heterogeneous systems can talk to

each other, they have to purchase further software (or perhaps

smack-bang-ware) 'cos the first lot of interoperability claims were all

**** and never gonna work anyway.

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Look, I must have misunderstood this, so if someone attends Eric's talk

could they please come back and advise later. But hold on, maybe the idea

has merit. This "universal adapter" (or perhaps "Enterprise Service Bus"? -

Now where have I heard that before? Spooky! Presumably any name other than a

"hub" as that would be all a bit Tibco(ish) with its bollocks ODBC adapters)

may soon have real application in the VMS arena. With VMS Middle Management

now actively supporting the port of gSOAP to VMS, just as "the first

production release" of WSIT hits the shelves, their customers are going to

need some middleware-for-middleware to rosetta-stone the ideosyncracies.

Then there's the GlassFish port, that'll be coming on stream, as soon as

gSOAP approaches a deliverable, and this universal-adapter stuff is becoming

critical! My God, how did we ever live without it? We have the solution; the

IMM team have just been a bit slow in shipping us the problem. (And then in

another couple of years we can come up with a "kernel-disambiguator"

codename "Tannoy" or "middleware-for-middleware-for-middleware"?)

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Albeit written in a very negative manner I think he has some really good points.

Full thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/e8278b76bd8cac99/8e8ef42127083082

Anyone about to comment on this? What do you think?

Markus