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Can we get Group valuation Varinces from product costing to COPA?

Hi Friends,

In our company we activated material ledger to post all material transactions in group valuation in addition to legal valuation.

We are able to get variances related to legal valuation flow in to COPA, can any one tell me on the possibility to get variance related to group valuation flow in to COPA.

All your valuble answers are highly appreciated and rewarded points.

Thanks in advance.

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Ravi

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    Posted on Apr 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Any thoughts from any one?

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    Posted on Apr 23, 2008 at 12:33 PM

    I've been looking into your issue but need more time. And worse still, I don't have my system before me today. I hope the config is in place - like the setting up of PA Transfer structure for the variance categories and assignment to the Order category, etc.

    Cheers.

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  • Posted on Apr 23, 2008 at 02:32 PM

    I assume you are calculating a group cost estimate for the products and during billing you are transferring the group cost estimate into separate CO-PA value fields than the legal cost estimate. It should be possible in the material ledger to calculate at period end the actual cost within the group valuation. Then to store the results on one of the open material master fields other than the standard price, such as the commercial price field. Then use periodic valuation in CO-PA to read this actual cost and post it into yet another set of value fields. Then you could in a report calculate the difference between the beginning group cost estimates and the ending.

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    Jeffrey Holdeman

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    Posted on Apr 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    I agree with Jeffrey. You could create separate Costing Keys (Valuation using Material Cost Estimate) to transfer the Group Valuation Costs to COPA. Assign this new Costing Key to a different Value Field.

    Not sure how you will transfer the Standard Cost Estimate by Group Currency (unless your Controlling area currency is defined as "30" (Group Currency). If this is the case, simply make sure the tick is in place for the costing key "Transfer Cost in Controlling Area currency".

    Now define a new Value Field and the difference between the two should provide the variance.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers.

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    Posted on Apr 25, 2008 at 03:54 PM

    Hiya,

    Agreed that COPA does not allow the transfer of more than one value for Production Variances. However, in its current state, even if you had the option of creating more than one PA Transfer Structure for transfer, COPA does not support the Group Valuation.

    COPA only supports Legal Valuation and Profit Centre valuation. During configuration, you have the option of assigning the Op Co currency and specifying transfer of data in the Company Code currency (both are Legal Valuations). Apart from these, the only other options available are these two currencies along with Profit Centre Valuation.

    I believe the best option for you is to Activate Actual Costing. I can't think of any way you can derive the production variances without this, except by extracting using a custom report and posting these to COPA (using a custom development).

    Looking for additional inputs on this.

    Cheers.

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      Hi Ram,

      Thanks for your reply.

      I feel that i reached a dead end on this issue, The reason being.

      1. Since in Product costing i have not seen the group

      variances similarly like Group WIP.

      2. We can only transfer one PA transfer structure.

      I am not able to think on how we can get Group variances by activating actual costing.

      If the data is there in the tables, i can think of custom reports otherwise i should create Z transaction for this.

      Please give your valuable inputs on this.

      Regards

      Ravi

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    Posted on Apr 29, 2008 at 09:31 AM

    Hiya,

    Can you confirm the following:

    1. what Currency and Valuation Views you are using apart from 10?

    2. what is the Co Area Currency and Currency Type?

    3. What is the Op Co Currency?

    Cheers.

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      Hi Ram,

      We are Using the below combination of currency type & valuation views

      Currency Type Valuation view

      10 Legal Valuation

      30 Group Valuation

      Controlling Area currency Type is 30 currency is USD

      Operating concern currency is USD & company code currency.

      Thanks & Regards

      Ravi

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    Posted on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Hiya,

    You are using Currency and Val Views: 10 and 30, which are both at Legal Valuation... it is just that the currency is different (Company Code Currency(ies) and Group Currency (USD)).

    So I believe you could still follow Jeffrey's original post and transfer data from your Group Currency (remember, both are Legal Valuations) to COPA.

    I was under the impression you were using 10 (default) and 31 or 71 or so (maybe even 11), which would then have been an issue in terms of reporting the new valuation view in COPA.

    However, with the current setting, I feel you should be able to work out based on our previous posts.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers.

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    Posted on Apr 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Hiya,

    Where in config have you maintained / specified "31" (OMX2?)

    Cheers.

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    Posted on May 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM

    Hi Ravi,

    Pondering over your issue of posting Group Valuation Variances to COPA. Consider this:

    Create a new Version in Controlling similar to the Actual Version (version 0). This will behave like an Actual version, but for the fact that the valuation profile will not be "10", but say "31". Since this is defined as another Actual Version, data should flow into this version like it does into version 0, but with the Group Valuation parameters.

    Now when you assign costing keys, if you look at the option "Assign Costing Keys to any characteristics", there are 6 characteristics provided, but SAP has reserved 3 for the PV, the Record Type and the Version. You can use an assignment using this new Actual Version and assign it to a suitable Costing Key. You can maintain upto 6 different Value Field sets (Alternative 1, Alternative 2, etc... don't exactly remember what they are called, but its something like this).

    Assign this Costing Key to (say) Alternative 2 and assign a new set of Value Fields to that alternative 2 in the Assignment of Value Fields.

    Do you see what I mean? Its a pity these ideas strike me close to midnight on a weekend, but I'm just waiting to test this first thing when I'm back at work on Monday. In theory, I don't see why it shouldn't work.

    Let me know what you think.

    Cheers.

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