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Recruitment of SAP Professionals..

Hi,

Now a days, recruitment in SAP almostly stopped. Major companies like IBM, ACCENTURE only were hiring people. so can any one tell me the reason behind this.

Thanks & Regards,

Ramana

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    Posted on Mar 11, 2008 at 11:57 AM

    you're probably implicitely assuming a certain region for which your statement holds true.

    I think your observation is not valid globally. Not at all. Maybe some globalized caravan, which stopped for some time at your place, just moved on.

    anton

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    Posted on Mar 11, 2008 at 01:14 PM

    These type of companies are like "Wasps around a Jam Jar".

    Most of these "consultancy" companies are actually only glorified "Body Shops". SAP was never their primary market and still wouldn't be either. The only reason they survived in SAP was because of the typical short term "planning" endemic in these businesses - sweet talk the end client into this type of talk

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    Say an end client estimates it needs 200 extra people to to a job for 6 months etc.

    " why pay a contractor / free lancer say 1000 EUR a day when we can manage your entire project with OUR OWN staff most of whom BTW are infinitely less qualified and experienced than a typical free-lancer "for a total fee much much less".

    If the consultancy firm comes up with a figure significantly less than the 200 * 1000 EUR a day which it will probably do then this looks good to the end client.

    Of course the poor guys who actually work for these "consultancies" might only be making around 25,000 - 40,000 EUR a year and often having to work horrendous hours under huge stress which will probably leave the majority as hospital cases by the time they are 50 (if they survive that long).

    This worked fine when there were HUGE projects around needing 100's of people.

    Now the market has matured --all the really big players have already implemented SAP so there is really only maintenance, hugely boring technical upgrades and Basis support. There's a lot less scope for the more interesting Project development stuff.

    There are of course always new ongoing projects but these don't need vast armies of people today -- often a small team of around 10 will now suffice even for a quite challenging project.

    So after the Y2K (and what a waste of time that was) -- Free-lancers always said this from day one but the "consultancies" recruited zillions of people into one of the most pointless and expensive ideas I.T has EVER embraced and once this exercise was over what could they do with the 1000's of people they had already recruited --no way would they have them "sitting on the bench" being non-billable.

    Huge cut backs of course. Now the market is a bit better but people like Accenture etc never ever learn.

    Usually also because the knowledge the people who work for these type of organisations is somewhat limited these consultancies invariably have to still hire a few professional free lancers to help get their own staff out of a jam. However most free lancers I know absolutely HATE working through these companies - it's like selling your soul to the Devil -- Free lancers always prefer working with the end client.

    I tend to regard these sort of organisations rather like a cockroach infestation - once say an organisation like Accenture gains entry on to your project it's almost impossible ever to get them out again.

    True SAP professionals wouldn't even THINKof working for these type of organisations --certainly not for the long term.

    There's plenty of life in SAP yet -- just avoid these type of companies like the plague if you want to live past 50 and eventually have a decent retirement.

    Finally if you want to get into SAP as a full time pro ("permie") there are literally 100,000's of end user companies still recruiting

    just look at typical web sites like http://www.jobserve.co.uk and choose the Permanent option.

    Cheers

    jimbo

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    Posted on Mar 11, 2008 at 02:27 PM

    Hi,

    For your information, we try presently to hire qualified SAP professionals and can't find them...

    Olivier

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    Posted on Mar 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    All good points,

    There is truth in both sides of the discussion. As an independent (UK Based) consultant who has worked for a few outsourcers I see a need to both large players (such as Accenture, IBM etc) and for nimble (easy to engage and dis-engage) independents. The problem both outsourcers and end customers have is getting high quality candidates. Unfortunately for the outsourcers is that if they cannot support their business with existing staff and cannot recruit they must take on sub-contractors (at % on top of their rates).

    There needs to be a greater development of skills in the market. This needs to be structured (validated) and demonstratable.

    I have co-founded a service for SAP professionals that has been launched in SAP (UK) this year. The service is called SID. This service provides hosted SAP ECC6.0 licensed environments, 1 per consultant, pre-loaded with SAP Best Practices (v2.600) and master data (see www.sidmembers.com). It is aimed at the BPX community and whilst allowing configuration it does not allow development. As it is stable it can be used for months or years without risk of being trashed by unfettered abap development.

    There is a need for this type of product to support the professional - permanent or contract - to hold a portfolio of configuration based on SAP Best Practice. This can be used to demonstrate to end customers, potential employers or PMs resourcing specific projects. For contractors this also make formal training more beneficial - as they will have a system to practice on when they complete the course - making it easier and more cost effective to stay skilled.

    There are many factors that will help to grow the labour market, one of them is to provide a sound basis for CPD. One that reading articles and books can only go so far in providing. I beleive the answer is hands on BPX practice in a safe environment. Hence the SID concept.

    Any thoughts?

    James

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  • Posted on Apr 03, 2008 at 05:00 PM

    Here's a (German) article:

    http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Bedarf-an-SAP-Spezialisten-nimmt-deutlich-zu--/meldung/105994/from/rss09

    (you can translate using http://translate.google.com or http://babelfish.altavista.com)

    that is telling, that there's an increased demand for SAP specialists...

    Markus

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  • Posted on Apr 09, 2008 at 06:07 PM

    I had a similar communication with Jon Reed. You can read his blog here...

    /people/jon.reed/blog/2008/03/24/how-is-the-sap-functional-skill-set-changing

    -nathan

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