Statistical Item

[Former Member]

Hi ,

Can you guys help me in differentiating between following two -->

1. Statistical Balance Item

2. Statistical Flow Item

Regards

[Former Member]

Hi everybody,

I see that the professional discussion went to personal acqusations. It's a pitty!

Let's return to the problem asked.

It's a quote from Mani's reply:

"Balance is a value that is derived from beginning balance plus movement. Flow is the movement itself.

Trial balance is an example of balance, while movement type is an example of flow.

When you do balance carry forward, system add all the flow type that you define to make a balance, and carry forward the balance only."

My long time postponed answer is:

Mani, you have a good joke on us?

Trial balance IS NOT AN EXAMPLE of balance! Trial balance is a set of ALL movements on ALL accounts. These accounts and movements are artificially divided into two parts: balance sheet and P&L report. P&L accounts are usually closed during a reported period. And, hence, they have no balances in the consequent periods. The B/S accounts are carried forwarad to the next period.

The movements on B/S & P&L accounts are controlled by special items (every posting in P&L is automatically balanced in P&L & B/S).

In order to have some accounts that are to be not controlled by special items (like cash flow items), SAP introduced statistical items. Like P&L & B/S items, but WITHOUT automatical work of special items. They are statistical.

Movement (transaction) type has nothing to do with it! MoveType is just a special subassignment, with an additional functionality for balance carryforward.

BUT, you may even don't use MoveType at all! And it will not affect the type of item, statistical ot not statistical.

Hope it's more clear now.

[Former Member]

I think the discussion is reaching a new low. Let us try to focus ourselves on SEM BCS and try to answer the questions.

Hi Eugene as you said rightly. I read Mani's reply with interest becuase many times it is ending on the comical side. The classical example is this. There is no need to supplement your answer especailly when u have answered corrctly. He wants to prove it to the outise world and to the company in which he is working that he is an outstanding material on BCS which at times leads to funny answer like this. I hope in future he should be careful in replying and he should think twice whether he is writing . You intervened at the right time and set the matter right. He is soliciting people and accusing others that you are writing in shadow names. he cannot openly do like this and get away. Readers should be very careful while reading the answers of Mani.

I think Telmelescomi, shivaji and Mani are one and the same.

Edited by: sap new on Dec 31, 2007 12:34 AM

[Former Member]

See /thread/699036 [original link is broken]

[Former Member]

Flow refers to P&L.

P&L for the year refer to movement with in year normally.

Learn move of movement type from help.sap.com.

[Former Member]

What is the functionality of these two items?

[Former Member]

I'll try to explain you like the following:

Balance is a value that is derived from beginning balance plus movement. Flow is the movement itself.

Trial balance is an example of balance, while movement type is an example of flow.

When you do balance carry forward, system add all the flow type that you define to make a balance, and carry forward the balance only.

[Former Member]

Eugene and Mani replies are in different directions. While Eugene says flow is like P&L where as Mani is comparing this to movement type. I am still a beginner and tryint to pick up something from this forum and really confused by seeing such contradictory replies. Is there any one who can explain what is the correct position?

[former_member588240]

I hope you will consider SAP Help document as final.

There are 4 types of item, (1) BS Item (2) IS Item (3) Statistical: balance (4) Statistical: flow.

Ref: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/ac/fe783b82ee5d31e10000000a114084/frameset.htm

Standard SEM- BCS keeps BS Item and Statistical: balance in the same category and provides similar accounting process treatment, while IS item and Statistical: flow are kept in the another category and provides different accounting treatment from the other group.

Ref: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/0c/ab0240536fe369e10000000a155106/frameset.htm

In that sense, Eugene mentioned correctly that Statistical: Flow items are treated similar to IS Items.

Transaction Types, also known as Movement Types, is the mechanism thru which SEM-BCS does carry forward functions. It cannot be compared to Statiscal: Flow. If there is any comparison, then it is equivalent to comparing ' reading' (an action) to 'book' (object).

[Former Member]

I think SAP_NEW and GANSHA are the same person. I felt in earlier times also, but wanted to watch more

Look at in this thread also.. there is back to back question with ready answer.

SAP_NEW logs out and with in fraction of minute GANSHA logs in and give answer.

Why not answer it straight away?

[former_member588240]

Mani,

You need not be scandalous of other members in this forum.

This forum is open and people can check the trail of various messages posted by me and SAP_NEW and they can conclude.

For your sake, I tried to figure out who is SAP_NEW. SAP_NEW seems to be one Mr.Paresh Dave. I am not SAP_NEW and I do not know that Gentle man.

I challenge you openly thru this forum to prove that I, GANSHA (Ganesh Shankar) is SAP_NEW. I will stop writing in this forum if you prove what you say.

If you are wrong, please be open and apologize in this forum.

Are you prepared to accept the challenge?

[Former Member]

If I get some free time, we will.

presently the focus is on solutions and I am running short of time.

[former_member588240]

You have all the free time to make scandalous accusations. Accept the challenge and prove. Other wise, apologize for your mistake.

[Former Member]

When so many BCS questions are unanswered, one could answer those questions and contribute.

Leaving all that when someone is commenting only my answers, gave me a doubt.

Particularly SAP_NEW 's question is answered by you in less than one minute of timestamp. Particularly such a long answer from any one could take 10 minute to type.

I said I have a doubt, don't call it accusition. Can't some one express a doubt.

Full stop.

[Former Member]

Hi Gansha,

Mani has been contributing for long time in BCS forum and has been positive contributor.

His first answer to statiscal item was good, but you try to commended in negatve way.Later you accused and try to confuse.the forum space.

Last but the least, don't discourage someone who is contributing well.It is you have to apologize to Mani for accusitions.

[former_member588240]

Tamelscomani,

You are creating another scandal…

I checked your postings in this SEM-BCS forum and in the earlier message Mani has asked the question posting member to accept your view (Ref: Re: BCS- Handling multiple Fiscal Year Variants ) https://forums.sdn.sap.com/email!default.jspa?messageID=4177357 Now you are returning favour (I scratch your back and you scratch my back )

Any one whoever reads this message from the beginning will understand who created the mess. The first answer was given by Eugene, which is correct (Please, I am not Eugene). Mani followed and gave contradictory answer which created confusion in the minds of other forum members. One member (SAP_NEW) raised the question about the correctness since responses posted by Eugene and Mani are seeming to be contradictory. To his post, I quoted SAP help document and replied. Where did I comment in negative tone? In my message, I have not even quoted Mani’s name. For my message, Mani made scandalous accusation that I, GANSHA and another member SAP_NEW (One Mr.Paresh Dave) are same. I challenged him to prove, otherwise to ask apology. He has realized his mistake. But why are you jumping around? Please let me know.

[Former Member]

Hi Temelscomi

Can you tell me whatdo you mean by Manis answer to the question was good and Gansha was negative As said by Eugene it is a JOKE. I dont know what are you trying to prove here. We dont want recommendations like this and each one is judged by their quality of answer.

[Former Member]

Hi sap_new/Gansha

I don't want to reply your comments.

From what I understand by going thru your previous posts, your intent is focussed to spoil and tarnish my name and my standing in the SAP forum. Hence forth I would ask you to keep the replies in the professional manner and don't bring personnal enmity in this forum.

Let us focus on the solutions.

[Former Member]

Hi Mani

Your answers are JOKE. I did not start this. You only started the whole thing and when you find that it is backfiring you are noe hiding. I am also least bit interested. Hope you maintain the ethics of this forum by not soliciting customers to transfer your half baked knowledge.

[Former Member]

Hi Amit,

Stat balance & flow items are like balance & P&L items. By default balance item is carried forward during year change, P&L item - doesn't.