on 11-29-2007 6:01 AM
1)can RFC adapter be used for asynchronous processing?
2)how to handle multiple idocs to file scenario without using BPM?
3)Is it necessary to create the partner profiles in case of file to idoc scenario?
4)can any body let me know th NETWEAVER ARCHITECHTURE not the XI ARCHITECHTURE
5)what is difference between the party and the business service and in which cases they are used with details?
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Kenny Scott
Hi Chandra,
<b>Business Service</b> that means, Service Without Party is used when your scenario is A2A....for creatting a communication channel you will have to have either the Business system, Business service.
For file systems which are generally just servers come under Business service. This is one of the place where you use Business service
<b>Service with Party</b> is used for Cross Company processes or B2B integration
<b>Service with party e.g:</b>
<b>For more:</b>
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/7d/6b82cd0d1aef48ab5953524c9cc5b2/content.htm
Hope you understood very well..
Thanks & Regards,
Ramana Kumar. A
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Hi chandra Kanth,
1: YES, RFC adapter can be used for asynchronous processing
2) Create Port in SAP to write IDOCs to File and read that file from XI, Transform and send it to target system(File system).
3) Yes, you have to create partner profiles, Without partner profiles how SAP System will process IDOCs?
4: NETWEAVER ARCHITECTURE:
Netweaver has 4 layers which are as follows:
People Integration:
 Multi-channel access
 Portal
 Collaboration
Information Integration:
 Business Intelligence
 Knowledge Management
 Master Data Management
Process Integration:
 Integration Broker
 Business Process Management
Application Platform:
 Java
 ABAP
 Business Services
 Connectivity
 DB and OS abstraction
 SAP Knowledge Warehouse
For more help on architecture you can follow this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/start.htm
also TBIT 40 also describes XI architecture in a good detail
TBIT40:
https://websmp109.sap-ag.de/~form/ehandler?_APP=00200682500000001337&_EVENT=DISPLAY&COURSE=TBIT40
5) Party and Business Service
Party: Is used to represent a business Partner ( who dose not belong to the Current company's landscape). It is generally defined in a B2B scenario. So All the systems/services associated with the Party are referred only as Services.for example a company involved in business with other company.
Business Service: Created in the Integration Directory to represent an application interface that receives messages and sends out messages in XI. Usually, like FTP folder or other third party application.
For example company involved in business with other company is party, now which service (ex: XI services) is offered by that company
Hope it may help you
Thanks
Sandeep
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Hi
<i>1)can RFC adapter be used for asynchronous processing?</i>
Yes, it can be
<i>2)how to handle multiple idocs to file scenario without using BPM?</i>
XI: IDOC bundling - the "trick" with the occurance change
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
File to Multiple IDocs (XSLT Mapping)
/people/anish.abraham2/blog/2005/12/22/file-to-multiple-idocs-xslt-mapping
<i>
3)Is it necessary to create the partner profiles in case of file to idoc scenario?</i>
Yes
<i>4)can any body let me know th NETWEAVER ARCHITECHTURE not the XI ARCHITECHTURE</i>
Check out for the diagram of Netweaver stack.The PIPA structure
5)what is difference between the party and the business service and in which cases they are used with details?
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/13/wanna-party
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions
Thanks
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Hi Chandra
for your 2nd question..
use the concept of IDOC bundling if you need to sent multiple IDOCs without BPM, it works with an occurance change.
Ref: /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
Regards,
Ramana Kumar. A
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Hello ,
1) Yes RFC adapter be used for Asynchronous processing
Reason : When we are using Sender RFC ,we will pass some variant and trigger the BAPI to the target side.
2) It is possible using a concpet called IDOC packaging
3)Yes it is necessary to create partner profile here the case is inbound scenarios
4)
http://www.thespot4sap.com/articles/SAP_Netweaver_Introduction.asp
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/84/54953fc405330ee10000000a114084/content.htm
5)_When we are working across Cross company i.e., across the firewall then we use part and Business service can be logical entity ,it can be sender or receiver.
With Regards,
Vidya
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Hi
1) RFC is used for Synch..and Asynch..processing also..
2) i will send you the document for Mul.IDOC -->xi -->File without BPM
give me ur mail-id
3)Yes...
4) Netweaver having 4 layers..
a) People Integration
b) Information Integration
c) Process Integration
d) Application Platform
And also Netweaver architure includes Lifecycle Management and Composite Application Framework.
5)Party and Business Service
Party: Is used to represent a business Partner ( who dose not belong to the Current company's landscape). It is generally defined in a B2B scenario. So All the systems/services associated with the Party are referred only as Services.
Business Service: Created in the Integration Directory to represent an application interface that receives messages and sends out messages in XI. Usually, like FTP folder or other third party app..
Regards,
Ramana Kumar. A
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> 2)how to handle multiple idocs to file scenario
> without using BPM?
Create Port in SAP to write IDOCs to File and read that file from XI, Transform and send it to target system(File system).
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
> 3)Is it necessary to create the partner profiles in
> case of file to idoc scenario?
Yes, you have to create partner profiles, Without partner profiles how SAP System will process IDOCs?
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jag
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hi
ans no.1: YES, RFC adapter can be used for asynchronous processing
ans no. 3: NO, it is not always necessary to create the partner profiles in case of file to idoc scenario if you are doing it for testing purposes otherwise you have to configure partner profile to assure XI for receiver client.
ans no. 4: NETWEAVER ARCHITECTURE:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/84/54953fc405330ee10000000a114084/content.htm
ans no.5 : A Communication party represent a layer unit which is involved in cross-system process (eg. a company). and Business service represent an abstract, addressable unit. business services are used in cross-company process. for eg if the parties involved have only published there interfaces and not there system landscape or it is partly known. normally we use business services to communicate with different systems in same company.
Regards
Mandeep Virk
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hi vidya,
regarding Partner profiles question......
it is not MANDATORY to use partner profile but it is NEEDED to reach the receiver.
once you processed the message through XI to SAP system integration work is complete.Then it is according to the requirement of developer that which should be the receiver. if it is known that which is receiver then partner profile is needed otherwise it is not mandatory always. message is delivered to sap system and can be used accordingly.
mandeep virk
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