Scrap Movement

[solomon_macwan]

Hi,

Which mov occure when we post the mat in co11n. If it is 553 than we were not getting that movemnt. and also when we scrap the mat in qa32, 551 mov is occuring. now if we am getting 551 mov than we should get 553 mov in scrap. If there is customization change pls guide me.

Thanks and regards,

Solomon

[Former Member]

Hi soloman

If your scarap is by product mention in BOM then its movement is 531.If back flushing is on then it get generated during CO11N.

If you want to post the scrap from qm then you have to make 553 movement for posting that material to cost cente. Because you are rejecting tha material as a component. and then sending that material to scarp location as ascrap then you have to do the 552 movement.

if it works please confirm.

[csaba_szommer]

Hi Solomon,

Please check MVT 261.

If you write scrap in 'Scrap' field during confirmation (AFRUD-XMNGA in CO11N) as I know it will be consumed via MVT 261. (you can check your scrap in COOIS too)

BR

Csaba

[solomon_macwan]

Thanks for your reply but wt am is that when we have rejection at both at prod level and quality checking. Now when we enter the scrap qty in qa32, it wil show the mov 551 in mb52. but when we enter the scrap(not by product)qty in scrap there is no movment occure.

Now if both are the scrap qty and one is having a movement and other dont its not possible. i think its 553 mov when you enter the scrap qty in co11n. but i m not sure. pls clarify and also wts the customization changes.

Regards,

Solomon

[Former Member]

Hi Solomon

I have clearly explained in cxo11N you are not making any stock posting unless you are making backflushing of byproduct.

In QA32 you are making stock posting.

That is SAP std functionality in QA32 . In CO11NM what I have explained is work around in SAP.

Hope it is clear.

Regards

YMREDDY

[csaba_szommer]

Hi SOLOMON,

If your stock has reduced due to scrap confirmation some material movement must have occured.

If you enter the scrap during confirmation it will be consumed via MVT 261. You can make a comparsion:

please check how many pcs should have consumed during confirmation according to the BOM, and please how many pcs were consumed via 261 through the booking (in real). If the difference equals the scrap your question is answered.

1. Can you see the scrap in COOIS (please put 'scrap' field in your layout)?

2. During confirmation in CO11N do you write the scrap in the filed identified by me?

Thanks,

Csaba

[solomon_macwan]

Thank you YMREDDY,

I understood it a littel bit.could u elaborate it. now

1. My raw material is consumed when i enter scrap.

2. should we do the manual 551 mov for scrap qty.

3. when i enter the scrap i can see it in coois.

4. no mov type is generated when i enter the scrap. but as u say its not any stock posting. but in qa32 when i enter the scrap even it is not a stock posting

Regards,

Solomon

[csaba_szommer]

(If you confirm scrap in CO11N only the COMPONENTs will be consumed by MVT 261, the good [SFG or FG] for which the PrdOrd was issued will be displayed only in COOIS as scrap - you cannot see any movement in MB51 for this kind of scrap. [Because it wasn't confirmed and then scrapped!!!] )

[Former Member]

Hi

Answers for your points:

1. Raw materuials will definitely consume for the scrap also.For this , it will be accounted in settlement of the order.

2. If you want do 551 movement , you should enter material . what meterial? & the copmlications of this in FI entries?

3. In COOIS you can see this not as stock.

4.in CO11N , the scrap field is meant for scraping the yield but not for stock posting.

4. InQA32 you are rejecting the exisitng stock avaialble as QM stockmaterial & scrapping . It will ask for storage location also.Also it will ask in QA32 the cost ceneter also.Because the stock should be accounted some cost center.

Normally in CO11n , we will not do any stock posting.

The circumstanes like the scrap is a hazardous material, then only you are required to be stocked & disposed to the satisfaction of polution authorities.

Ex: - in flourescernt tube manufacture , mercury will be injected to the product at one of the operations.

After this operation, if the product gets rejected, this carp will be hazardous scrap.

Then you have to use such byproduct concept as explained by me in above update.

Hiope it is clear to you.

Regards

YMRDDDY

[solomon_macwan]

Hi,

Mr. Csaba, I am not agree with your point earlier i have checked and i am sure that the material which you post into scrap in co11n you can see it in MB51, 551 mov. But somebody has change the settings thats y we have this difficulty

Mr. YM Reddy, i m agreed with your point that scrap is not for stock. and you cant see it in coois and not only stock posting happening here.

But my only prob is that i am not getting 551 mov for scrap in co11n. earlier i was getting it and i need the customizationin spro. and accounting was also correct.

Please give me some time I will correct it and send you the screen shot if you requ.

Thank you friends I will revert you soon.

Solomon

[solomon_macwan]

I have seen some of the things

1, -ve qty in bom, which gives byprodut will give 531 mov

2, if u enter scrap in co11n u will get 551 mov

3, if u enter scrap in qa32 will give u 553 mov

only thing is that i m not getting 551 mov. which i should b getting.

Regards,

Solomon

[Former Member]

Hi

You will not bget 551mmt when enter scrap in CO11N, because it is not stock posting.

It is STD SAP functionality.

Regards

YMREDDY

[csaba_szommer]

Dear SOLOMON,

It would be very starnge If you were able to see the CO11N scrap in MB51 (with MVT 551).

1.

You have stock of materialA > 10 pcs

You scrap it: MB1A 551 4 pcs > your stock will be 6 pcs and you can see the 551 posting in MB51 (4 pcs)

2

CO11N

You have stock of materialA > 10 pcs.

You execute a confirmation: yield: 5 pcs + scrap 4 pcs

/this means that you produced 9 pcs alltogether and 5 pcs are of good quality and 4 pcs are of poor quality/

Yo will have stock of materialA > 15 pcs (original stock 10 pcs + 5 pcs yield)

Concerning the 'scrap' you won't have any movement of 551. It you had 551 for the 'scrap' your stock level would be 11 pcs instead of 15 pcs. (Your stock level must be 15 pcs because you had 10 pcs of good quality + 5 pcs yield!)

You do not confirm that 4 pcs as good and scrap it after that. You scrap it at once without confirming it first (by 101).

You can see this scrap only in COOIS and you will have consumption for the components with 261 (these components were used to produce the 'scrap').

Please think it over how could it work if your CO11N scrap was booked with 551. It can't work because in this case you would scrap a material by 551 that has never been confirmed (by 101).

BR

Csaba

[Former Member]

Hi

I understand your problem.

IN QM you are posting the stock to scrap after rejecting.

In CO11N, you are not posting any stock.

In CO11N you are confirmng only , no stock posting.

In ceratin circumsatnces , if you want to see this as scrap as stock there are other settings:

You have to create the scrap as material ( may HALB) & assign it in BOm with negative qty.

By this you are treating this as by product.

Then you will get with 531 movement in CO11N if you flag it back flush.

Of course you have to make some finance adjustments.

Hope it is clear.

Regards

YMREDDY

[Former Member]

Hi Soloman,

if u enter the scrap as by product in goods movement screen at Co11n, it will be posted with 531 Mvt type.

regards

pradeep