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TRM - FWZZ / TS01 Cliente Custom Conditions

Oct 10, 2017 at 05:26 PM

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Dear all,

I created new conditions for Product Type Z01 (Copy of 04R). One of the Z000001 is like a final payment. The other Z000002 and Z00003 are like comissions and are to be repeated periodically with a fixe value.

When i check the Cash Flow in FWZZ there is no error and the simulation is according to what is expected. (Picture below):

However, when i'm posting via TS01 i get the following error:

Internal ERROR please contact SAP (TRS0073)

I checked note 1115384 but this is for older releases. I'm in S4/HANA. Before contacting SAP i would like to know if anyone of TRM Experts could have an idea of whats could be wrong.

Thank you very much,

Nuno Anjos

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Gustavo Vazquez Oct 11, 2017 at 10:52 AM
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Hi Nuno,

Please share Conditions Tab of FWZZ.

The error should be here. Update Typoe Z000001 is missing

IMG: Financial Supply Chain Management -> Treasury and Risk Management -> Transaction Manager -> General Settings -> Accounting -> Settings for Position Management -> Set the Effects of the Update Types on the Position Components

Also, why did you change Update types from SAM1106 to Z0000001 ?

Could you share the cashflow of the Security?

Kind Regards

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Former Member

Hello Gustavo,

Picture 1 is the FWZZ condition tab and you can check Z000001. The error is not in Z000001 but in Z00002/3 and 4.

I didn't changed. I created a Z* because i want to contol better since the purpose of this condition is specific for this type of product.

Thank you for your reply.

Nuno Anjos

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Hi Nunos,

In the Cashflow you have sent me, the initial buy is for 100.000 nominal units, but you only have repayment for 95.000 (47.500 + 47.500) ; where are the remaining 5.000 nominal units ?.

Z000002/3 have date 30.11.2022 but the last payment was on 30.11.2020. What is the final date for the Security ?

If you want to add expenses, you should do it at the Security Account Deposit; as a Derived flow (Define Calculation Procedure for Derived Flows) or a tax (Define Tax Rates) or Manual Entry.

There are no Conditions defined as Charges in "Define Conditions". (IMG: Financial Supply Chain Management -> Treasury and Risk Management -> Transaction Manager -> Securities -> Master Data -> Product Types -> Condition Types-> Define Condition Types.

What is the required cashflow for the Security ?

Kind Regards

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Gustavo Vazquez

Hello Gustavo,

i understand what you mean. The last payment is 5.000€ but it's not reducing the NOMINAL AMOUNT. If this happens, i guess i will always have position amounts in the Security, right?
Below you can see the conditions. They pay in 30.11.2022 because it's a 24 month period and the last payment is in 30.11.2020.


Do you have any documentation regarding derived flows? Can i customized fixed charges in derived flows? They are not taxes, they are contratualized costs.

Thank you again.

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Former Member Oct 12, 2017 at 08:11 AM
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Hello Gustavo,

I managed to advance with the problem. I customized conditions type with blank FIMA Calculation Type:

FWZZ:

TS01:

I will continue testing to check if this has any impact on the rest of the processes.... nevertheless thank you very much Gustavo.

Best regards,

Nuno Anjos


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Hi Nunos,

I would not use Condition Type 9001, or I would change it's type to TTRA as it is a 04R Bond.

I suggest to remove "Pag.Residual" from the Bond and add a new condition 262 (Amortiz Prestacoes) to start 04.11.2020 in order to get the final payment on 31.12.2020. Is it 5.000 EUR as a fixed amount or it's 5% ?

The update type on 30.12.2022 is because you have some bond calculation between 04.11.2020 and the End Term (30.12.2020) , and the next date available for the payment in the condition is 30.12.2022.

I never used expenses as Derived Flow as expenses. By definition, an Expense should be on Security Deposit Account. A Company issues a Bond and you are paying them Commission for issuing it ?, that doesn't look good. I undestand your point in adding expenses to the Security, but it doesn't work that way.

Hope this helps

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Hello Gustavo,

I appreciate your answer very much. The "Pag.Residual" is 5.000€ fixed amount not a percentage.

I understand the flows in 2022 so this is not an issue anymore. I will continue testing as is, because this would be the perfect solution although i was warned by you, and as i said, i thank you for that. If nothing goes wrong i will keep this customizing, because the customer insists on having the expenses simulated in FWZZ and for that i need a condition in FWZZ and not on deposit. I tried to reason with them but i'm not getting any luck.

In the meanwhile i will check if i can do derived transactions for expenses.

Again thank you very much for your help.

Nuno Anjos

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