Public Holiday not to be counted/deducted from absence quota

[Former Member]

Hi Guys,

How to exclude the public holidays from counting and deducting the absence quota.

In employee IT0007 that day is showing Holiday class = 01, off/paid, I have unchecked Holiday class = 01 in counting rule for that absence.

Even after this it is deducting the quota ...

How to solve this issue...........ur valuable inputs

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

What day type are you using?

Please maintain the counting rule and deduction rule for your absence quota type. Also assign the counting rule to your absences.

Hope this helps,

Reward points if helpful,

Thank You,

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Arun,

I am using day type = 01 (day off) and Holiday class = 01

I have maintained counting rule by unchecking the Holiday class = 01

the counting rule also has been assigned to absence.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Guys,

Any valuable comments

[Former Member]

Hai..

Maintain table.. V_554S_E Class 02. Read F1.

[Former Member]

Hi Manu,

I have maintained the table as said but still public holiday is counted for that absence type.

I could find in the IT0007 of the employee for that day as HC1 with excat public holiday.

But in IT2001 for the same employee the same day is showing as HC0.

where is the exact problem...............

[Former Member]

Keep the Unit in V_T554S as "K"- calendar days

Your selection rule must be like b111111111 b111111111 b111111111 (generate the work schedule once you change the selection rule)

Check all the check boxes in the counting rule.

[Former Member]

Hi Anatha,

I have changed the absence days to "K" calendar days

Changed the selection rule and generated the workschedule

But i did not understand y you are saying to check all boxes in counting rule for the absence.

My scenario is I want to exclude Public holiday in the absence and quota deduction.

Kindly clarify the last part.............

[Former Member]

Hai..

While Creating Public Holidays.. Have u assigned Public Holiday 1 to ur holidays.. pls check it 1st...

[Former Member]

Hi ARp,

I actually wanted to emphasise this point

The Trick lies in Selection rule and not in counting rule

[Former Member]

Hi Manu,

I have created the public holiday with HC 1 only.

I can see in the IT0007 of the employee on that day as HC1.

But when i enter absence IT2001 for that employee it showing the same day as HC0.

Hi Anantha,

As said by you made changes

1. Calendar days in absence type

2. selection rule

3. check all boxes in counting rule

4. Generated work schedule

still the public holiday are counted....

kindly do input ur valuable comments

[Former Member]

Send a screen shot of workschedule in 0007 and in 2001, and if possible all the config for this absence type. to my mail id.

Anantha.prakash@caritor.com

[Former Member]

Hello ,

YOu have given a islamic holiday. Is the person applying for leave is a Muslim. if not it will not be treated as a holiday (for hindu, christian etc)

[Former Member]

Whether the issue is solved or not.

[Former Member]

Dear Anantha,

The server is down hence unable to check...

I will defntly check and get back to you in this regard.....

[Former Member]

Hi Anantha,

I checked as per your inputs its working fine the public holiday is excluded for that absence type and working fine.....

<u><b>For Example</b></u>

When Annual leave get exhausted it will deduct the unpaid leave.

For Annual leave public holidays should not be counted but for unpaid leave public holiday has to be counted.

I have configured the leave with 2 absence quotas ie when one absence quotas get exhausted it will deduct from the next one. Deducting sequence is correct. When we enter annual leave more than its entitlement it deducts the unpaid leave but it is not excluding the public holiday for the second absence quota.

Kindly input ur valuable comments

[Former Member]

SEnd me the documents with explanations to my mailid. i am confused

[Former Member]

Hi Anantha,

I have sent the documents.......

Kindly give ur valuable inputs

[Former Member]

Your requirement is Tricky yaar. i hope it is not possible. you have to have two different deduction rule for these two different absence types to avoid this issue. once annual quota is over the employee will be forced to take unpaid leave. so in your case he will raise two absence requests.

[Former Member]

Hi Anantha,

I am having two different

<u><b>deduction rule </b></u>

1. Annual Leave

2. Unpaid leave

two different <u><b>counting rules</b></u>

1. Annual Leave = excl Pub Holiday and fridays

2. Unpaid leave = include all days

two <u><b>absence quotas</b></u>

1. Annual Leave quota

2. Unpaid leave quota

two <u><b>absence type</b></u>

1. Annual Leave

2. Unpaid leave

the only condition, I have mentioned in annual leave deduction rule is in first priority deduct annual leave absence quota and then unpaid leave absence quota.

When I am applying absence separately for annual leave and unpaid leave all the conditions are met.

But when I go for the scenario of over entitlement of annual leave the problem is striking out.

Now it is deducting the quotas as per priority mentioned in deduction rule ie when annual leave get exhausted it is deducting the unpaid leave accordingly. But the only problem is the condition for the second absence quota is not met

Anantha, I hope there must some way or other to achive the condition of the quotas.

I am missing something, to achieve the condition.

where exactly I am making mistake....................

[Former Member]

What exactly is the problem now?

[Former Member]

Hi Anantha,

I have confugured absence type and its quota.

I want to exclude the Public Holiday to be counted for that absence type.

How to achieve it

At present it is deducting the quota....

[Former Member]

Hi ARP,

Just do one thing in absence types remove E ( error msg) for non working day then check it out.

Thanks

Srinivas

[Former Member]

Hi ARP ,

my 1st question

1) from which year to which year u have generated the holiday calendar

2) have u saved the information which u have created in generation of work shedule manually.

3) and the most important thing is i think ur dws variant is not correct. if ur DWS varient is correct just let me know the condition, bcoz XX under B & 1 ( holiday calss ) i cannot understand the condition.and on which day u want call varient and there is no varient also e.g : u have to save the varient with some alphabet A to Z that is also not in ur screen shot. pl let me know what for u are using the varient

pl revert back as early as possible

Srinivas

[Former Member]

Dear Srinivas,

1. Holiday Calendar valid from 1950 to 2020 and Public holidays valid from 2007 to 2007 only.

2. I have saved the information and transported the same to quality.

3. My DWS has no variant with any alpahabet its blank. Can you help on this factor as I am not clear on that part.

My scenario is as below :-

(a) When employee proceeds on Paid Leave : Fridays should be excluded in counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/offday, public holiday should be excluded from counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/off day.

(b) when employee procedds on unpaid leave - Fridays should be included in counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/offday, public holiday should be included in counting rule for absence irrespective of workday/off day.

[Former Member]

Hi, ARP,

ur 1st condition

a) When employee proceeds on Paid Leave : Fridays should be excluded in counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/offday, public holiday should be excluded from counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/off day.

A) then do one thing in counting rules do not tick on friday, and in absence types

First day off - E

Second day off - E

non working day off - E

i think u are configuring Time Mgt for saudi, then i think there is no rotating shift on friday then i think it will work

(b) when employee procedds on unpaid leave - Fridays should be included in counting rule of absence irrespective of workday/offday, public holiday should be included in counting rule for absence irrespective of workday/off day.

A) for this scenario do tick from Mon to sun, and in absence types

First day off - I

Second day off - I

non working day off - I

Just try this and let me know,

comming to DWS varient u use varient when there is samller version daily work shedule for e.g: half day on saturday, or half before a pulic holiday. if there is any condition just send it to me i will solve and send to you

try this scinario's first and then let me know, i am working on ur reqiurement

Thanks

Srinivas

[Former Member]

Dear Srinivas,

Thanks for ur valuable inputs,..................

(a) I have already unchecked the friday and ofcorse its working. But you dinttell about excluding the public holiday.....where in I have checked only "Not a Public Holiday" rest unchecked. Regarding Define absence type it is already E, E , E for the three...................

As you know my main problem is with exclusion public holiday in counting rule for paid leave....

(b) I have ticked all the days from mon to sun as said, but what about holiday class.

As you know my main issue is with inclusion of unpaid leave in counting rule...

<b>Regarding the Day type</b> which I feel the most important can you write the dws selection rule with reference to my requirement, what excatly i should write over there....as I am totally confused on that part only........

[Former Member]

Hi ARP,

Holiday class for unapid leave: Tick on Not a public holiday

holiday calss for paid leave : Tick from Not a public holiday to 9, or try this Tick on Not a public holiday

& holiday class 1

and regarding day types ur rule 04 is right

Rule b123456789 b123456789 b123456789

04 1 1111111 1 1111111 1 1111111

the meaning of blank under 'b' work then only pay, '1' off paid, '2' work then only pay. bcoz b & 2 are on working days. i think the day type is correct

try this scinario, if solved can u pl send me screen shots.

thanks

Srinivas

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srinivas shivkumar

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srinivas shivkumar

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srinivas shivkumar

[Former Member]

Hi ARP,

when u are configuring define absence types, pl have a look at absence input checks, if u want public holiday to be excluded:

Non working day - E ( error if a employee books a absence on public holiday)

Hope this helps u, if not just revert back to me with complete screen shots to my mail ID: sri_mahanthi@yahoo.co.in

reward points if solved

Srinivas

[Former Member]

Dear Srinivas,

I have sent the screen shots to ur mail ID kindly check it.

[Former Member]

Hi ARP,

i am just going thru ur screen shots, i think u just check the dates of config

mean while i will let u know

Srinivas