09-18-2007 8:01 AM
Hello!
Does anybody know how to solve this problem?
To integrate FI-CA (for utilities) and FM BCS SAP offers derivation rules in customizing. The system derives fm account assignments assigned automatically from business transaction data. To determine fund center in business partner item in billing document or invoice, payment and so on we cant use standard derivation tools according to transaction FMDERIVE because source fields contain only company code, division, period key, sub transaction, main transaction, account determination ID. It is a great problem that we need to use cost center to derive fund center, because derivation rule «cost center fund center» in connection with FI-CA doesnt work.
Thanks
09-18-2007 9:49 PM
Are you saying that when you create a derivation strategy (whether it is an "assignment" or a " derivation rule"), you don't have the source fields for anything other than the 6 fields you mentioned (company code, division, etc.)?
09-19-2007 9:24 AM
Thank you for answering.
I have many fields to create a derivation rule, but according to library and note 686383 I can use only 6 of them to make a derivation strategy. Unfortunately even If I create a derivation rule, for example, cost center fund center it will work only in ERP central component, and no longer in Utilities FI - CA. We use ERP 2005, FM BCS is activated, ISU FM is activated, funds are used. Do you know something about it?
Thanks
10-04-2007 4:55 PM
Hi,
here we have also ISU, FICA, FM and other integrations with PS network activities, SD, MM, CO-CCA, CO-PCA, CO-PA, FI and BW
We are in ECC 6.0
I have many problems with FICA and FM
maybe we could exchange some questions and responses
Regards
Salvator
PSM-FM Consultant
10-05-2007 4:34 AM
It's a good idea.
So, let's start.
Does you make budgets in fm end pass them to bw first or you get them from bw by retractor and use them for avc?
10-05-2007 3:09 PM
Hi Anastasia,
We have ISU, FICA, FM and others modules in integration. We are in testing now
Please create this following derivation
from
Company_ code
FM_area
Division
HVORG
TVORG
Account_number and initial value autorised
target fields
cmmit_item ovewrite with new value
Fund
Fund_center
fill in all the values you use for FICA
example
division 07
main transaction 0200
subtransaction 7117
GL account here it is the GL reconciliation account of the business partner
Commitment item 434406 ( for sales)
Fund 7700
Centre financier 77071
you can test it in FMderive switch trace it works
For us it is ok it is the only solution for derivation FICA with FM
Here we have to enter manually all values for example we have 752 entries
good luck
here we have other problems with EA19 invoice and KEU5 closing CO PA
the system does not find any fund
ciao
Salvator
PSM-FM ECC 6.0 Consultant
Neo Technologies
Suisse
best regard
10-16-2007 12:40 PM
Hi does your derivation rules for FICA for tcode EA19 works?
If yes please tell me how you configured your derivation rules
regards
Salvator
10-17-2007 6:42 AM
Hi, sorry for not answering so long.
I believe that your derivation rule works. We use several rules. kofiz, hvorg, tvorg - commitment item, functional modul FMDT_READ_MD_ACCOUNT_COMPANY Read Account Master Data to derive T602 (commitment item) for reconciliation account (business partner). The second rule kofiz - fund_center. First, we made an enhansement SAPLFMDT to add fields to ci_fmderive and ci_cobl to make derivation cost_center - fund_center, but refused, i don't know why, it was the solution from is - u side. Also we have an assignment to make constant for fund_center if certain kofiz.
This rules work for invoicing perfectly, but not for payment and so on...
I can say about ea19 - IS - U department is preparing abap-program to make common invoices. About Ku05 - unfortunately, we don't use CO - PA.
It seems to me that my derivation rules work not correct because i nave separate rule for derivation of GL account (reconciliation).
Thanks
01-09-2008 10:51 AM
Hi Anastasia..
I got th eproble same as yours. We want to use profit center to derive fund center. We still get the error this derivation.
Could you please tell me the detail of your solution?
And do we still need to implement note 1108462 to solve it?
Thanks a lot,
Jatuporn.
01-10-2008 8:11 AM
hi
we don't solve our problem yet. We will try to implement the note 11108462. Did you do it? what was the result? do i am right thinking that this note doesn't help to derive fund center from cost center?
10-17-2007 3:57 PM
Hi,
Now KEU5 works for COPA closing we have implemented a not yet released note from SAP
on question?
Can you please test in your sytem on EA19 to see if it works.
We have message FKKFMCHK008 the account assignmnet is missing in business partner line
ciao
Salva
10-29-2007 10:30 AM
Hi Anastasia,
Now EA19 works and we have FM very well integrated with ISU-FICA.
Finally SAP recognised there was a bug and they applied a note to solve the problem.
I don't push you to use any ABAP development to solve EA19 and don't derive cost centers to solve your problems.
regards
Salvator
PSM-FM 6.0 ECC ISU-FM-CA
10-29-2007 11:21 AM
Hello, i know this problem, i mean 008, it appears even if an account exists in partner line. Could you tell me the number of sap note?
10-31-2007 8:34 AM
Hi Anastasia,
With the derivation rule i gave
Note 1108462 dated 26 oct 2007; this note has been created for us in switzerland.
now it is available. it solves EA19 fmchk 002.
You have to have BP line items and GL line items with the same FMAA.
Hope this helps you definitively
Regards
Salvator
sr PSM-FM Consultant