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Movement type 122 & 161

What is the difference between Movement type 122 & 161?

Request to provide business process explanation also.

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Vengat

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    Former Member
    Sep 11, 2007 at 12:17 PM

    Vengata

    161 is when you create a PO and tick the box for return, when you process MIGO for this po the system will automatically use movement type 161.

    when you do a goods receipt against a PO you create a material doc (these can be found in MB51) If you do a MIGO transaction A02 'return delivery AND R02 'Material document' using the doc number that was generated when you did the 101 gr then the system will automatically do a 122

    I hope that this is simple and helps you

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    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:03 AM

    121 Subsequent adjustment for subcontracting

    This movement type cannot be entered manually.

    With a subsequent adjustment for a subcontract order it is possible to correct the consumption of components. In this case, the material produced by the supplier is credited with the excess consumption / under-consumption. For this reason, if there is a subsequent adjustment, an item is generated for the produced material using movement movement type 121.

    Movement type 121 does not have a reversal movement type

    161 Return for purchase order

    If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order is posted.

    Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122

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      122 Return delivery to supplier or to production

      Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).

      In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. In this way, evaluations of return deliveries are possible.

      The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101

      Please check this one.........

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    Former Member
    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:17 AM

    Below exlaination is in relation to purchasing and not production.

    Document with movement type 122 required reference of another document (GR). Accounting in 122 happens with the rates mentioned in PO/referenced material document. This will also increase the open order quantity.

    Document with movement type 161 does not require another document. It requires Return PO wherein you can mention different rate other than regular PO. Therefore, you can charge additionl/less than regular rates to vendor in case of 161. This does not increase open order quantity.

    Hemant Mote

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    Sep 11, 2007 at 10:18 AM

    Hi Raghavan,

    The basic diffrence between these two movemnt types is,

    122: you can return material to the vendor when you know the PO number or GR number. The major advantage here for us is material get returned with same value when GR taken.

    161: Returns PO, here we will retun the material by creating the PO with Returns flag.As soon as you take GR system returns the material with price given in the PO. Here system takes the price given in the Returns PO.

    The business functinality of the both are, If you taken the 100 qty GR from the vendor and 80 got accepted and 20 rejected. Then it is advisable to go for 122.

    But you have procured material from various vendors and 100 Gr qty only 1 pc got rejected and like that in case of other vendors. In cumulative you got some 30 pcs that are not usable. In that case you negotiate with any vendor to take that material at agreed price. In this case we go for Returns PO. Stock get returned with the agreed price.

    Thanks,

    Krishna Reddy

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  • Sep 11, 2007 at 10:21 AM

    Hello Vengat,

    Both movement types are return deliveries to the vendor. Both have the same effects in the system, send the goods back to the vendor.

    The logic behind movement 161 is the following one: You have created a PO for your vendor and posted the GR for it.

    Then, you check the goods and discover that some of them are damaged and want to return them back to your vendor.

    You take advantage that you need to create another PO for this same vendor to include a new line for the goods to be returned. These goods to be sent back will have the returns item indicator set.

    When the truck from your vendor arrives to your plant, you post the GR for the items in this second PO. For those items flagged as returns the system automatically converts the 101 into a 161.

    This means that we load the goods that we are returning in the same truck that vendor has sent these last goods. We return when we receive.

    The 122 is just the normal process to send the goods back.

    I hope this helps.

    Esther.

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