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Production order type

Former Member
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Dear all,

my question is whether it is possible in a standard way to determine the production order type according to the operation in a routing.

I will try to give an example:

I'm going to convert a planned order in a production order.

I have one task list group, but 2 different group counter.

I would like to differenciate the production order type according to the group counter.

Is it possible?

Thanks in advance

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former_member698542
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Hi Gian,

It is not possible to have order type based on the Routing counter. You can only have options to select the group counter in the production order.

thanks and regards

murugesan

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Former Member
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Hi,

many thanks to everybody for your suggestions and support!

At the end the point is that there is no any link between the production version and the prod order type.So maybe we need an exit.

Kind Regards

Gian

Former Member
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hi there ,

u define in img ,what order type the system should use when u convert the planned order to production order , the order type & order type dependent parameters contain the information that is being used by the system to find out the routings if u have more than one depending upon the prorities that u maintain . but in u r scenario the system will not be able to create diff order types for diff group counters .

Former Member
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I look the requirement from business requirement angle.

Please explain me what is your business requirement, people can give better solutions

Former Member
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Hi Rajesha,

lets suppose a bom like this:

A is the father code and B and C are the sons.

We can produce internally the code A, but at the same time, we can also buy it from an external subcontractor, managing the subcontractor as an external operation in a Task list group.

When I'm going to convert a planned order for the code A, I would like to differenciate these 2 production processes with 2 different production orders.

So my question is whether it is possible to determine the production order during the planned order conversion, according to which one of the 2 group counter I had chosen.

former_member196398
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Gian,

Do you mean to make A you will give components B & C to Vendor? Or is that he directly supplies A?

If A is directly being supplied by Vendor then in the material master MRP2 view for A you define procurement as "X" - both procurement possible. Remember to run MRP with parameter for create pur req as "Planned orders only".

If B & C is supplied to vendor to make A then, probably you can look at using Production version to indicate the combination of routing and BOM. In the order type dependent parameters - OPL8, define for this order type "Prodcution version" Selection Manual, and in the MRP 4 View for A define BOM explosion by production version only. In this case when Planned order is converted in production order system will display a popup screen for you to select the production version for execution.

Regards,

Prasobh

Former Member
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Hi Rajesh

As far as i have understood ur scenerio, u either Bye A from a subcontractor or produce it. If so u can follow the below process.

When u are producing it in house u produce through production order process

& when u procure it from the subcontractor directly create a subcontracting purchase order in which the BOM can be exploded & materials B & C can be given to the sub contractor for production of A.

So that ur both process are differentiated without much complications.

regards

Prasad

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Former Member
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Hi Prasobh,

I had a look to your suggestion regarding the production version, but I have a problem.

The system chose automatically everytime the first production version, there was no any pop up to choose the right production version.

Do you have any idea on how to solve this issue?

Thanks

Regards

Former Member
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Hi Prasad,

yes I know what you are saying. The point is that our requirement is to use the routing for both processes, if it is an internal production, and also if it is an external production made by a supplier.

Thanks

Regards

Former Member
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As u explained

A can be produced in house and also can be produced by a external party where you give the C and D and get A.

You create a routing for inhouse production

in material master make the procurement type X, special procurement type as subcontracting

Create a bom for A with c and D

Now when you run MRP, system will prapose a planned order and you can convert it into subcontracting purcase requsition and laso production order.

in case if you want to configure routing operation as external operation, then proceed as below

create 2 routings one for internal production and one with external operation with all required settings like vendor infor record, rate...

create 2 Production version with different riutings.

when you run MRP system will prapose the planned order which you can convert it to production order with routing 1 or riuting 2.

This information you can see in MD04 list in prodution version column.

I hope it is okay with you, pl come back if you need more clarrification.

Former Member
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Hi Rajesha,

How can I create 2 different routing for the same material number?

The task list group will be only one, in the meanwhile I will have 2 different group counter for the same routing, isn'it?

Thanks

Regards

Former Member
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Yes, 1 group with 2 counters for a material

former_member196398
Active Contributor
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Gian,

You need to define in the order type dependent parameters that Selection of "PRODUCTION VERSION is MANUAL". If my memory is right the transaction is OPL8 here make sure you do this setting for the right plant/order type combination.

Regards,

Prasobh

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Former Member
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Hi Prasobh,

yes I tried according to your suggestion, but please correct me if I'm wrong:

- in this way, to choose which production version you have first to convert the planned order, then before saving the production order, you should read the PP master data and then choose the production version manually, isn't it?

The point is that in this way there is no link between the production order type and the production version, isn't it? So it is not guaranteed that for one production version you can use only one prduction order, isn't it?

Thanks

Regards

Former Member
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Mr. Gian,

system will choose the first PV during MRP run, it will take the first PV which you can see in MD04 screen. When youn double click on planned order and go to change mode and change the PV if required.

former_member196398
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Gian,

Yes, You are right there will not be any check with respect to order type and produvtion version.

If you are looking at restriction like that then use Production order exit, which shall check what ever you want before saving the order.

Regards,

Prasobh

Former Member
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HI Gain,

Through production order type you will not able to do so. An production order type contains the control information that you need for managing orders. Some of them are control indicator, cost controlling, status man and number range general.

With Regards

Tarun