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Output generation in purchase order

Aug 10, 2017 at 02:46 PM

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we are facing issue with PO output type generation .

one output is getting generated that is for the first time , but after some time one another output gets generated while there is no changes found in that time (when the second output was generated ).

could you please share possible reasons why these kind of ambiguous behaviour is faced . and how to fix or analyze this issue .

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Former Member Aug 11, 2017 at 06:15 AM
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Hi Sir,

Thanks for your input ,

But what happens actually is this is generated automatically by batch without any change in the PO .

can you share some of the possible cases .

basically the output type is maintained as 4 (trigger immediately).

but these type of outputs that i am talking about having output type 1 (send with periodical job)

don't know from where this(output type ) is being picked

for 4 i can say this is maintained in NACE table ,

but where this 1 is getting picked ?

any way to check this ?

am i missing something ?

Thanks and regards

Soumyajit

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Former Member Aug 11, 2017 at 06:26 AM
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Hi Sir ,

Here you go!

i have updated the snaps

check the medium and time

the Po was created on 1.08.2017 at 9:17

it was triggered immediately that's ok . but check the other one (above)

i don't even know why the other output is also generated , that was not visible at the first time

even i dont know when the 2nd output was triggered by me and when i generate the output type .

this is the NACE maintenance view .

this is maintained at vendor level as per the configuration .

am i missing something ?

please let me know in case you need any further input.

Thanks

Regards

Soumyajit


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Former Member Aug 11, 2017 at 06:30 AM
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Hi All,

and one more thing i would like share ,

in case there is any change for which there is no change log present in that case also the output gets triggered with output type 4 not with 1.

Regards

Soumyajit

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Former Member Aug 13, 2017 at 05:18 PM
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Hi Jurgen,

thanks for your input,

yeah i checked that tcode that you provided ,

ME9F tcode belongs to the program RM06endr_alv that is included in our regular batch jobs ,

what i wonder is

1) if the manually change check box is playing any role to create this output.

2) triggering data is 2 step process a) to create output b)then run that program (RM06ENDR_ALV) to process the output.

3)what i strange is how this output gets generated when there is not any change then we can think of that TCODE or that program

4) Do you think there is any output gets created by anyhow ? because after creating that PO user chakrsom that is me did not made any change , after some time this is triggered.. strange ! :(

can you please explain this bit more.

and on the top of it, is there is any special difference between RSNAST00 prg and RM06ENDR_ALV prog

Thank you so much again

Regards

Soumyajit

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is there any background job that ran at this time of the change?

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Hi Jurgen ,

No Not to create unprocessed output type .

i got your point if some one forcefully creates the output type in that case NASt will be populated and this will be triggered without having any change in Po header ,

But how this output is getting generated when there is not the program that is used to generate the output is included in that batch ?

do you think any other way how this unprocessed output can be generated ?

am i missing any concept ?

and on addition to that what i observed there is not one but 2 unprocessed message type is getting generated.

how this is possible ?

you can refer to that same snap again and you can see 2 output are processed at the same time

but how NAST can allow 2 unprocessed output at the same time

is there any configuration needs to be maintained ?

thanks

Soumyajit

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All this can only be investigated in your system.

Did you do any customizing related to that?

Are you new in your job and you got this issue to solve, while it was originally designed and implemented by someone else?

In general when you create a PO then a message determination happens and you can see all messages that are found in the message tab of the PO.

Depending on the message condition setting these messages are processed immediately or later via a separate transaction or an extra program.

But in standard you will not get any extra new message unless the PO was changed again.

If there was no change and additional messages pop-up in your PO then this must have its origin in an own development. If you are new to this then ask your colleagues and seniors internally.

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Hi Jurgen ,

do you mean this is customizing issue ?

we all are trying to find out the solution , but we can not able to justify this duplicate msg type creation by any means .

let me dig this more .

Regards

Soumyajit

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no, this cannot be achieved with customizing in your IMG, this must be z-programs

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Former Member Aug 10, 2017 at 02:53 PM
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Can you share screens for both PO types?

Are two separate layout designed for two PO with PO types( document types)

check message condition record and are there any changes caused your concern!

Check which PO message type set in "fine tuned" segment in customisation

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Jürgen L
Aug 10, 2017 at 05:26 PM
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Nothing happens really by itself in SAP, anything has to be started by a user.

You have to check the details of the messages in your PO (eventually via SE16 in table NAST) , have to compare the information in the messages to see where they are different, you also will see who created it and then you can ask the user.

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Jürgen L
Aug 11, 2017 at 08:18 AM
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Look at your screenshot what I highlighted in green:

Here you see that the message was manually changed (added) and by whom.

This is not a data manipulation in any field and will not be logged in the PO header change history. Repeating a message output and changing the timing can be done from ME9F.


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