different cilents

[Former Member]

what is the need no of clients in a server?

what may be the max. no?

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

thanx a lot mr.tajuddin for tour detailed reply.

my que is why we dont create master data in golden client only.

why there is need of 2 clients i.e silver & golden.

if we create master data there itself in silver slient, what will be the problem?

and as u said we do config in silver client and master data in golden.

so every time we need to tranport a request from silver to golden client if we make any changes in spro.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sandip,

I am ready to give the answer but you should rewards points to suitable answer then posts asks further.

The concept of Golden cleint is only for the configuration purpose hence this will be restricted to use for the tests purpose. you can have one client only for both configuration and testing but this will become mess as everybody perform changes with cretaing thier change requests. Dolden client is only have open status for the customizing and Silver client always closed.

On your request Basis team will transport the request immediattely or normally they run Job in background to transports all release request automatically after every one hour so your request will be transported automatically if released.

Regards

TAJUDDIN

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Sandip Raut,

Development server is used for Development. Either Development/Golden Client is used for Configuration. Then all the developments and configuration data is transported Quality Server where you would test the configuration with test data. You would transport the same to Production if everything is right.

Landscape is like a server system or like a layout of the servers or some may even call it the architecture of the servers viz. SAP is divided into three different lanscape DEV, QAS and PROD.

- DEV would have multiple clients for ex: 190- Sandbox, 100- Golden, 180- Unit Test.

- QAS may again have mutiple clients for ex: 300- Integration Test, 700 to 710 Training.

- PROD may have something like a 200 Production.

These names and numbers are the implementer's discreet on how they want it or they have been using in their previous implementations or how is the client's business scenario.

Now whatever you do in the Sandbox doesn't affect the other servers or clients. Whenever you think you are satisfied with your configuration and you think you can use it moving forward, you RE-DO it in the golden client (remember, this is a very neat and clean client and you cannot use it for rough usage). As you re-do everything that you had thought was important and usable, you get a transport request pop up upon saving everytime. You save it under a transport request and give your description to it. Thus the configuration is transported to the Unit Test client (180 in this example).

You don't run any transaction or even use the SAP Easy Access screen on the 100 (golden) client. This is a configuration only client. Now upon a successful tranport by the Basis guy, you have all the configuration in the Testing client, just as it is in the Golden client. The configuration remains in sync between these two clients.

But in the Testing client you can not even access SPRO (Display IMG) screen. It's a transaction only client where you perform the unit test. Upon a satisfactory unit test, you move the good configuration to the next SERVER (DEV). The incorrect or unsatisfactory configuration is corrected in Golden (may again as well be practised in the sandbox prior to Golden) and accordingly transported back to 180 (Unit Test) until the unit test affected by that particular config is satisfactory.

The Golden client remains the 'database' (if you wanna call it that) or you may rather call it the 'ultimate' reference client for all the good, complete and final configuration that is being used in the implementation.

In summary:

Landscape : is the arrangement for the servers

IDES : is purely for education purpose and is NOT INCLUDED in the landscape.

DEVELOPMENT ---> QUALITY -

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> PRODUCTION

DEVELOPMENT : is where the the consultants do the customization as per the company's requirement.

QUALITY : is where the core team members and other members test the customization.

PRODUCTION : is where the live data of the company is recorded.

A request will flow from Dev->Qual->Prod and not backwards.

1. Sandbox server: In the initial stages of any implementation project, You are given a sandbox server where you do all the configuration/customization as per the companies business process.

2. Development Server: - Once the BBP gets signed off, the configuration is done is development server and saved in workbench requests, to be transported to Production server.

3. Production Server: This is the last/ most refined client where the user will work after project GO LIVE. Any changes/ new develpoment is done is development client and the request is transported to production.

These three are landscape of any Company. They organised their office in these three way. Developer develop their program in Development server and then transport it to test server. In testing server tester check/test the program and then transport it to Production Server. Later it will deploy to client from production server.

Presentaion Server- Where SAP GUI have.

Application Server - Where SAP Installed.

Database Server - Where Database installed.

Regards,

Naveen.

[Former Member]

mr. tajuddin,

i am talking abt diffn clients in the one server like prdn server or development server or quality server and not abt the diffn servers.

if ther is only one client then also we can test the data in dev or quality server and then transport it to prdn server, right?

or otherwise instead of having diffn servers, we can use diffn clients of the say prdn server as dev, quality and prdn client.

we can test data in any 1 client in prdn server and transport it to another client(which we will use as prdn server)

so why there are multiple servers then?

[Former Member]

Hi Sandeep,

Normally we have Production, quality, and development servers. Apart from this there will be sand box for testing purpose.

We can have as many as client within quality and developemnt system but there will be strictly one client only production system.

for supose in developement there is Golden and Silver client. Golden client use for configuration and new customization and Silver client to check the effects of that customizing with creating master data known as unit test. There will be no master data creation is Golden client.

I quality again you may have two servers one for user tests and one for you for integration tests or as per release of your CTS client will advise you for the testing.

There will be changes and testing in production.

So in general there are three servers but you may have more than one client.

If any question then please inform.

regards

TAJUDDIN

[Former Member]

Dear Sandip Raut,

The maximum number of clients is 800. You would get an error message

'maximum number of clients reached' if it exceeds the limit.

Regards,

Naveen.

[Former Member]

Hi,

There are three default clients provided by SAP.

000: SAP standard client

This client is used to set up new "neutral" clients by client copy.

001: SAP standard client

This client is used to set up new "neutral " clients by client copy.

066: Early Watch Client

This client is purely a service client that enables SAP to access remotely the customer system with regard to analyzing errors and performance.

You would create clients as per your requirement by copying from standard. Few companies use same server for development and quailty by maintaining seperate clients.

Customization data is client specific. Hence, you would test in one client before you can transport the same to other client.

Regards,

Naveen.

[former_member196398]

Sandip,

It is only the maintenance, Cost and Control factor required interms of changes which will decide how many clients.

Regards,

Prasobh

[Former Member]

Hi Sandeep,

The basic requirement is testing purpose..means the new developments are throughlt checked before these moves to production client. I think there is no limit for the max clients.

Regards

TAJUDDIN