regarding bcakflush

[Former Member]

Hi All,

Can anyone one help me with following question?

Can we do backflushing without planned order? if yes ...in case of discrete manufacturing we can not do goods receipt or issue with out planned oreder...

what makes the difference?

Regards,

Murali.

[Former Member]

In REM-Repetitive manufacturing ,without any planned orders

you can carryout MFBF transaction- Automatic GR & GI happens.(131 & 261 movements are carried out).

here you have the option of assebmly, component and activity backflush

In Descret process,set backflush indicator either in MM01, workcenter or routing.

Use control key in which check the milestone confirmation.

Auomatic stock posting anmd confirmation done, you can do this by creating mannual prd order

[siddheshwar_rajguru2]

Hi Murali,

1. You can do backflush without planned order in REM process

Use T-Code - MFBF and give data , like plant, production version, materila number, quantity to be backflushed , date of posting.

THis is in case of REM - process

agin u have option of assebmly backflush, component backflush and activity backflush

2. In Descret process.

You can also do without planned order , u set backflush indicator either in MM01, workcenter and routing.

Use control key in which check the milestone confirmation.

Auomatic stock posting anmd confirmation done, you can do this bhy creating mannual prd order

Regatds

Siddhesh

[former_member184655]

Hi Murali,

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Mangal

[Former Member]

Murali,

The difference is that in discrete the control is overa lot of defined qty. The BoM, the routing are only for the order. The costs are collected at order. The shop floor production order gives better control over the operations. Planned order is just a planning element unless and otherwise it is converted to a Order - by it's literal meaning. You implement Discrete Production orders when you want stricter controls like order chnge management,cost monitor per order.

Whereas in case of REM you just require the procedure and the material to do a confirmation - that is a backflush. That is you require Prod version which combines the Routing and the BoM. Even without planned order you could do a backflush. The production here is "repetitive" and not "discrete". Costs are collected into a single bucket - The Product cost collector. Variance is calculated on periodical basis. In Discrete the variance is at order level.

Hope you make some sense out of this.

Ram

[former_member184655]

Hi Mr.Murali,

Generally <b>Backflushing is used in REM scenario.</b>

In REM-Repetitive manufacturing even if you do not have any planned orders for ur FERT's or HALB's you can carryout MFBF transaction-that's Automatic GR & GI happens.(131 & 261 movements are carried out).

As far as i know in Discrete i dont have much idea about planned orders.But only production orders are generally considered.

But if there are planned orders,

1.First you have to convert that planned oerders into production order,using T code CO40,CO41-Individual &

collective conversion of planned orders into Prod.Order.

2.Then after the production order is released (CO02 change mode release the prod.Order), Goods issue will happen , manually using MB1A and

3.Then Production confirmation using CO11n or CO15.

4.Ware house receipt.

6.Order settlement.

or else you can create a production order manually using T code CO01,and against this goods can be issued.

<b>Back flush means - "The non-manual posting of an issue of components some time after their physical withdrawal for an order.

The goods issue posting for backflushed components is performed automatically at the time of order completion confirmation."</b>

In discrete materials are issued against only production orders.

Kindly check and confirm with other answers given by experts.

If useful please reward your points.

Thanks & Regards

Mangal

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Mangal